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State of Weather in November 1791.

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fhowers, ftorms of wind, hail, and rain, all day ftorms of hail, ftorm continues till 6 P.M. overcaft, violent storms in the afternoon

2. Many flocks of thrushes seen.-6. Froft powerful; the wind keeps down, or elfe the air would be piercing. Trees have carried their leaves much longer than usual this feafon. A great many hips and haws. New fown wheat in general looks well. Daifies, pinks, and many flowers, in bloom. Lauruftinus in bloom. The feafon mild in general till towards the end of the month, when stormy. The roads univerfally in bad condition; the rain not fufficient to wath away the mud and mire which the wet weather has occafioned. Fall of rain, 4 inche 2-1oths. Evaporation, 1 inch 8-1oths.

METEOROLOGICAL TABLE for December, 1791.

Height of Fahrenheit's Thermometer.

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W. CARY, Mathematical Inftrument-Maker, oppofte Arundel-Street, Strand.

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Gentleman's Magazine:

For DECEMBER,

1791.

BEING THE SIXTH NUMBER OF VOL. LXI. PART II.

Mr. URBAN,

XXX BEG an early infertion

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of fuch anfwer as I can give to the feveral enquiries of your correfpondKent J. N. in p. 980.

Dec. 6. the counties of Nottingham, Norfolk, and York, faving to Margaret his widow a reasonable dower. Who the was does not appear. His brother obtained 200 marks for his burial2. No mention of him occurs in the parishes of Kelling and Salthoufe, Norfolk, where he held the manors 3; but Blomefield fays, that William gave Watton for life to John, his younger brother, who died feifed of it about 1337, and, having no iffue, his brother was repoffeffed of it.

鮮 Mr. Bridges has not 滋味 deduced a regular fucceffion of the Roffes at Stoke d'Albini; but I conceive Job, whom your correfpondent enquires after, to be a grand. fon of Robert, who acquired this manor by marriage with Ifabel, heirefs of Albini, and fecond son of William de Ros by Maud de Vaux. A particular account of him may be feen in Dugd. Bar. 1. 549, where he is called "a perfon eminent in his time." He was of the party of Queen Ifabel and the others, whom Edward II, at the inftigation of the Spenfers, had banished. He landed with her and the prince 20 Edward II; and, being in great favour with the young king, Edward III, was, on the depofal of his father, conftituted feward of his houfehold in the first year of his reign, and employed in Scotland, accompanied by his brother Thomas (whom, by the-bye, Dugdale omits in the preceding page). He was one of the twelve lords by whom it was refolved the king in his minority should be governed. 2 Edward III. he was governor of Somerton caftle, in Lincoln fhire; and 7 Edw. II. was in Scotland with his father; 10 Edw. III. was conflituted admiral of the fea from the Thames Northward; 11 Edw. III. was in Gafcoigne, and had a grant of free warren on his lands in Nottingham and Oxfordfhires; 12 Edw. III. an allow ance was made on his petition to be reimbursed the expence of arraying men while he was admiral and enployed beyond fea. He had fummons to parliament from 1 to 11 Edw. II, but died before the end of the next year without iffue, and his brother William became heir to his eftates in

1 Lel. Coll. 1. 684. Knighton, P, 2556.

I think we have here authority enough for concluding this John to be the bon (not bonne) compagnon here recorded. His chearful or convivial turn" might recommend him to Prince Edward, or a diftinguithed fpirit of gallantry to his mother. In fhort, he might be what we now call a fhrewd clever fellow; and it appears, from the fcanty circumstances in which he died, that he was no great economist. Perhaps he spent more on the tower of Stoke Albini church than he could afford, at leaft if the tradition be true that he was founder of the church, and the Ros to whom the arms on the South fide of the tower are to be appropriated; or, as he seems to have. been a favourite with his brother, the lord of the manor, he may have honoured his memory by a cenotaph in this church, or by allowing him to refide on his manñon here: for his father and anceftors lived at Kirkham, in Yorkshire.

This John will have been great great grandfon of Robert, furnamed Furfan, whofe monument in the Temple churchs fhews him to have been a handfume man, and perhaps alfo a good companion.

Sir Robert de Ros was appointed, 1442, to treat for a marriage of Henry VI. with a daughter of the Count of Armagnac 6. Being one of the king's carvers, he was fent on an embally to France 1444 7.

2 Walsingham, 12 Edward 111. 3 Parkyns, V. 931, 950.

4 I. 586.

5 Sepulch. Mon. of G. B. I. 41, pl. V. 3. Rymer, XI. 7.

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7 lb. 53, 80, 196, 105, 210, 214, 216, 22

At the inftallation of Abp. Warham the office of chamberlain was claim ed by Bartholomew Lord Badlefinere in right of his manor of Hatefield, near Cherrings, held of the Archbishop by that fervice. This is the manor of Hotefield, now Hothfield, in the hundred of Chart and Longbridge, in Kent, held in fee of the Crown by grant of Edward II. to Baitholomew de Badlefmere, who appears to have held it by grand fergeanty of the Abp. of Canterbury; and, & Edward H. claimed, and was allowed, to perform the office of great chamberlain to Abp. Reynolds, and ferve up water for him to wash his hands; his fee for which was the furniture of the room, and the bafon and towel: but there are fome doubts about his claim to this fervice in the record in Batteley; which fee; and Hafted's Kent, H. 252, and note. 'The manor was forfened to the Crown by this Bartholomew, who was attainted and hanged; but it was restored by Edward III. to his fon Giles; who dying without iffue r2 Edward III. his eftate devolved to his four fifters; and this manor fell to the fhare of Margaret, wife of William Lord Ros of Hamlake, whofe defcendants held it till the reign of Edward IV. 9

Elizabeth, Lady Ros, whofe monument, engraved in Dart's Weftminster Abbey, 1. 29, is mounted over Brocas' tomb, died 1991. Cecilia was fecond wife and relict of Francis, 6th Earl of Rutland, and one of the daughters of Sir John Tufton, father of the first Earl of Thanet, and owner of Hothefield manor abovementioned, by grant from Henry VIII. at the end of his reign. The only and indeed beft authority for burying this lady in St. Nicholas's chapel, Weftminster, is the regifter of the church, and it is probable the might be depofited with, or near, a former branch of the fame family, though not, like her, honoured with a monument from John the eighth carl, who, being of a different branch of the family, was not very nearly related to her.

In a letter to Dr. Thoroton, dated July 20, 1670 (of which the original is now before me), Sir William Dugdale Jays, “I have good draughts of all the monuments at Bottesford, as well thote

8 Appendix to Batteley's Canterbury, No. XX. a. p. 20..

9 See Hafted, loc. cit.; fee alfo Dugdale, 8.1.549 12 Hafted 111. 3; 351.

which were tranflated from Belvoir priory at the diffolution (as 'tis said), as of the earls of Rutland fince." And it appears from the Hiftory of Nottinghamfhire, p. 114, that Sir William had prepared a particular Hiftory of the Lords of Belvoir," which in 1679 was nearly ready for the prefs. Qu. In whofe poffeffion are thofe drawings, or Dugdale's MS Hiftory?

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I conclude by wishing Mr. J. N. may obtain a good picture of him to decorate the Hiftory of Leicesterfire; for which, if I can smell a rat, I prefume it to be destined. The fame good office would not be ill-beftowed on a Knight-tempiar, perhaps of this family, whofe statue, probably removed from the ruins of Kirkham or Rievaulx monaftery, where the Roffes were buried till the middle of the 15th century, is placed on a pedetta! on a piece of ground without the city of York, called Hobmoor, and faid to have been given to the city by one Hsb, who perhaps was Robert I. lineal ancestor of John, and a great benefactor to the Knights-templars, among whom his grandfon Robert Furfan was buried. As the place of interment of Robert 1. and his fon Everard are not specified, we may fuppofe it was Ribftane, where the Templars founded a preceptory, and which is nearer York on the Weft thas the other two houfes on the East 12.

When I was at York, 1785, 1 faw in Newgate-lane, fet up in the wall, a cross-legged figure, with a found hel met, coat of mail, cushion under his head fupported by angels, fword at his left fide, on his fhoulder a crois patencé under a barrulet, fuppofed a younger brother of the Latimer family, who probably accompanied his relation in the croifades of Henry III. and Edward 1.4 I mention this ftatue only as a fimmat inftance with that abovementioned, and unnoticed by Mr. Diake, or any other York Antiquary; and am, Mr. Urban, yours and J. N's humble fervant, R. G.

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Dec. 19.

Mr. URBAN,
N Cantuaria Sacra, p 59, it is re-
lated, that, at the introning of Atp.

Camden, 111. 69, that the beautiful gate of 1 It appears from the new edition of Kirkham priory ftill remains, with hases and various armorial bearings. But I know not that any view has been pablished of them.

12 Drake's York, p. 398. * Duge. 1. 30 14 We hope fome friendly corres uden at York will favour u with dra vings and defcriptions of both thefe curio hatues. Latr. Winchelice,

1791] Hiftorical Particulars of the antient Family of Ros.

Winchelfea, Bartholomew Lord Badelelmere, in right of the manor of Hatfield, near Charing, fupported his claim to the office of chamberlain for that day. Mr. Batteley was, however, mistaken in the name of the manor, for it was not Hatfield, but Hochfield, in the hundred of Charing, &c.; which, fays Phillipot (Villare Cantianum, p. 193, was held in grand ferjeanty of the Archbishop, and the condition was, to ferve up water to the Archbishop at his inthronization, and to be likewife his chamberlain on the night of his inftallment, Bartholomew de Badelefmere, writes the fame author, who was poffeffed of this manor in the reign of Edward the Third, dy ing without iffue, his four fitters became his co-heirs; and Margaret, who was one of them, being married to Lord William Ros, of Hamlake, the efiate thus paffed into the inheritance of that family. This will account for Sir Ro bert de Ros's being deputed (as obferv. ed by J. N. p. 980) to officiate as chamberlain, in the minority of his nephew, when Abp. Stafford was inftailed.

The manor of Hothfield was granted in the reign of Henry VIII. to John Tufton, eiq.; and the Earl of Thanet is now the proprietor of it.

The fecond wife of Francis, Earl of Rutland, was Cecily, daughter of Sir John Tufton, and widow of Sir Henry Hungerford. To the memory of Richard, third fon of Sir John Tufton, there is a monument in Weftminsterabbey between the chapels of St. Edmond and St. Nicholas; and, in the infcription, Cicely, Countefs of Rutland, is enumerated among the children of Sir John Tufton 45. It appears, by Collins, that he was buried in that church in 1643, after having 21 years furvived her husband, who died in December, 1632.

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be an imaginary furmife, it is certain that he had landed property in Stoke Daubeny, becaufe Margery, his young widow, held in dowry, with other eftates, a third part of the manor of StokeDaubeny, and perhaps it may not be unknown to the Hiftorian of Leicesterhire, that the had, by the fame tenure, two parts of the manor of Redmylde, in that county. Baugy, or Little Baugie, is ftyled by Weever the name of the battle in which the Duke of Clarence was the first perfon killed; and it appears, from the verfes he has cited from Harding, that Lord Roos and the other English officers who were flain were brought to England to be buried.

To fave the trouble of turning to the Funeral Monuments, pp. 212, 213, a copy of the lines alluded to is given:

The Lord Roos, and Syr Jolm Lumley,
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And many other were with him flayne that
An brought the Lordes home fro thens full

fone:

That there lay flayne upon the feeld that daye
And buryed them in Englond in good araye
Elke one in his abbaye or colage
Afore founded within his heritage 16.

The ingenious and learned Mr. Milner, when writing of himself and of a prelate of his communion, ufes, I obferve (p. 997), the term Catbouck, without a piehx; but very, very much disinclined am I to believe that a clergyman of his liberal turn of mind can harbour an idea that Proteftants are not, according to the obvious and true meaning of the word, Catholic members of the Church of Chrift univerfal. See p.811.

P. 1042. As not any place denominated Suteley occurs in Adams's Villare, may it not be reasonably prefumed that, in Leland's Itinerary, there is an error either in the MS. or of the prefs? and is it not likely that Sulby, a Premonftratenfian abbey, might be the religi ous houfe he meant to notice, as being in fome degree in the patronage of the Earl of Rutland? To give the more plaufibility to this furmife, it may be remarked, that, in Britan Antiq. et Nov. III. 579, the word Sulby is faid to have been iometimes fpelt Suleby. W. & D.

Collins (Earls of Stratford, p. 596,) informs us, that John Lord Rofs was flain with the Duke of Clarence at a battle in Anjou, Eatter eve, 9 Hen. V. Is it very improbable that he might be le bon compagnon concerning whoin J. N. enquiry? The confieres of the order of the Garter are called knights-companions; and was 16 We are inclined to think that the "bon companion applicable to knights in ge compagnon" is the earlier John pointed out neral? That John, Lord Rofs, was a The Lord Ros who was killed in p. 1075knight as well as a warrior, there can in 1421 was buried in Belvoir Priory.hardly be a doubt; and, as he died in the bed of honour, he merited the epi-Q Who was the "John Roofe," whote donaBut, fuppofing this to tion to the "Friars de Sacco," at Cambridge, thet of le bon. pro area elarganda," was confirmed in 15 A.C's Antiquities of Westminster, p.207. 1627, by Fot. 52 Hen. IlI. m. 12 ?

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Mr.

Mr. URBAN, Ludlow, Dec. 8. SEND you an letter of Lord Clarendon to Lord Carbery, Prefident of Ludlow caftle. You may depend its authenticity, as I copy it from a upon book of undoubted authority. happily refcued from the plunder of the old caftle. I have preserved the original or thography and abbreviations.

PASTOR CORVENSIS.

Copy of a Letter from Lord Clarendon, Lørd Tigb Chancellor of England, to Lord Carbery, Lord President of the Marches of Wales.

"My very good Lord,

"I am accomptable to your Lopp for two letters, the firft of the 27th of the last mouth, the laft of the 15th of this, in which are ma ny examinacons concerning Mr. Danvers, though no great matter in them; wthout doubt yr Lopp will hear of other difcoveryes fhortly concerning him. Yr Lopp had not left London many days when Mr. Attorney Gene rall inform'd me of the death of Mr. Griffith, and defired me to move his Majefty to depute Mr. Robert Milward, who is a perfon of very fignal affection to his Majesty's 'ervice, and of good abillitys in his profeffion, to fucceed him in yr Marches, for wh he is the more fit by being already one of the Juf. tices in the Great Seffions in that eircuit wch the Chiefe Juftice rides; wch I did accordingly before I received your Lopp's letter; and his Majefty willingly granted it, as yr Lopp may perceive by the inclofd warrant under his Majesty's hand; and I am confident you will find him of great ufe in that fervice, and will have caufe to thank me for helping you to fo good an affittant. Yr Lopp will not take it ill that I tell you yt. I have very great complaints yt the councell at

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In the earth below this tablet
are the remains of

JAMES THOMSON,

T. P.

author of the beautiful poems, intituled, The Seafons, Caftle of Indolence, &c. &c. who died at Richmond on the 27th day of Auguft,

and was buried here on the 29th, Old Style, 1748.

The Earl of BUCHAN, unwilling that fo good a Mau,

and fweet a Poet, should be without a memorial,

has denoted the place of his interment,
for the fatisfaction of his admirers
in the year of our Lord, 1791.
"Father of light and life! thou Good Supreme!
O teach me what is good! teach me Teef!
Save me from folly, vanity, and vice,
From every low purfuit! and feed my fol
With knowledge, confcious peace, and vutue
pure;

Sacred, fubftantial, never-fading blifs !"
WINTER

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"Country Bookfeller," p. 1017, that, fo far from making ufe of, I never had the pleasure of either fecing or heat. ing of the copy he mentions of the fong "in praise of ale ;" and that this, as well as every other fong in the Collection he accidentally looked over, was

the Marches have conitted feverall gentle-printed, with fcrupulous fidelity, from

men and attorneyes for fending and bringing prohibitions granted by the King's Courts above. I hope it is not true; if it is, it will produce ill effects. I with yr Lopp your heart's defire in all things, and am, my very good Lord, yr Lopp's most affectionate

CLARENDON C.

humble fervant,
“Twitenbam, this 22d July, 1662."

Mr. URBAN,

the most authentic copies that could be
procured. The oldeft edition 1 am at
prefent able to refer to of the fong ia
queftion is in "The Academy of -Com-
pliments," 1663; but I well remember
having made ufe of a ftill earlier, print
ed, I think, in, or foon after, 1630,
which was naturally preferred, as mcft
likely to contain the original words.
Your correspondent's criticisms may, ne-
vertheless, for any thing I know, or, in-
deed, care, be perfectly just; but ther
concern the author of the fong, and not
Yours, &c.
J. R.

Mr. URBAN,

Adderbury, Sept. 21.

Dec. 15. HROUGH the refpe&table medium TH of your Monthly Regifter, I defire to acquaint the lovers of Nature, and of "Nature's child," that, after Thomjon, the laple of almot half a century, during which the Poet's afhes have been mingled in the undiftinguished mafs of common Naturalift with the hitlory of trees, clay, they are about to be refcued from blivion by his illuftrious countryman which, from great age, fize, or other rethe Earl of Buchan; a Nobleman, whole markable circumftances, have become ardour to excite the emulation of the liv-worthy of notice, I cannot refrain exing, by giving celebrity to the dead, is preting the plestine I feel in contem on every occalion eminently confpicuous. plating thote venerable and gigantic

AS you frequentle favour the curious

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