the charge. If you mean that it is to make them odious in the eyes of their fellow men, we also deny it. But if you mean that it is persecution to publish the doctrines, the obligations of Papists, which are inconsistent with the rights and the liberties of any who are not Papists; then we plead guilty of the charge of persecution. What is it sir that we have been publishing that has so persecuted you? Look back over the numbers that we have already published. There you will find "the creed of your church."-" whole decrees of the Council of Trent on particular doctrines""decrees of other councils, entire, mostly the original latin in connection""whole Bulls of your Popes"-"the famous Bull cœna domini, Latin and English,, 'the oath of allegiance of your Bishops to the Pope, Latin and English"-"extracts from your Prayer Books,—the Breviary,"-" the Catholic Almanac, &c."-and in almost every case, the book, edition, and page referred to, that any one may examine them, and so quoted that they shall speak the true meaning. Will you tell me sir, what kind of persecution this is? Can you point to any such work as having received this name before? No sir-if there was shame or principle in a man; if there was not a consciousness of the truth of that published, we had soon heard of those who would come out for your defence. The history of your Priesthood and your laymen, will answer on this point in the defences in the way of civil prosecutions.

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But the term persecution is odious, and when you cannot defend yourselves, cry out we are persecuted! we are an innocent, injured unoffending class of men, who would rather be slandered than make the least defence of ourselves. So be it then. Cry persecution! Oh we are persecuted!!

4. You say that Catholics have met without a single act of irritation, those charges against their faith and practices-which were known to be groundless.

On this point we are not a little surprised that you speak thus.Are you ignorant of what has been published by us? Do you know these charges to be groundless? Was the case of Priest de Barthe, and his inhuman treatment of the orphan girl a groundless charge? Was there no truth in the Forgery of the Will by Priest Roger Smith ? Are you acquainted with the counsel of Smith (a Mr. Read) who confessed in open court that He had drawn up that will at the instigation of Smith? Are you ignorant of the barefaced and high handed roguery of Smith in that case, and the silent sanction of it by the Archbishop in refusing to degrade him from his office, and the permitting of him to remain so long at the Cathedral after the act?— The account of this outrageous act was published in the March number of 1835. Was it false? Were the charges known to be groundless? Do the citizens of Baltimore-do the lawyers of the bar-the judges of our court, know these to be groundless charges? If the public are called upon to believe our statements, when given by you, as well as by Priests, they will have to know that charges are groundless, when the interests of the church are not promoted by them.

You say that the publication of these have been met without a single act of irritation on your part. Is this so? Why did not the friends of Mr. Ward, whose family had been robbed by the forged will, publish the account of it? We can answer Mr. Read.

It was through fear of their houses being torn down and their lives taken by the members of Mr. Smith's congregation, and yet this is forbearance. How wonderfully things change, when the eyes of Protestants have been a little opened. Now you are all forbearance. We are to congratulate ourselves and the Protestant community that our houses have not been torn down and our blood shed, for publishing the doctrines of your church-and the practices of your Priests! Humane men.-Innocent men!

But in particular the case is pointed to "the May No. 1835, teeming with obscenity and calumný, had, in a manner, pointed the fury of the populace against the convent.

If by populace here you mean the rioters, the mob, you have at least erred a little. Those that read this Magazine, so far as we know them, and those that are subscribers we can say are as respectable and worthy men as William George Read-they are as respectable-useful and orderly citizens as Mr. R. can produce in the circle of his knowledge. Strange persons indeed to address, to engage in rioting and plunder. Strange indeed that we should address those who have the welfare of the city and the good order of its inhabitants at heart, on the destroying of property and disturbing the peace and good order of the community. You mean I suppose sir a class of men who are known among us within a few years, of a character with the members of your church, whose conduct on the Rail Road called for the interposition of the civil authorities to keep them in order; but the laws of the land were vain, until a Priest of your church gave the law, and then your brethren, the fellow members of your holy mother church, ceased their rioting and bound themselves to Priest McElroy of Frederick not to engage again in such quarrels. We addressed no such men, we directed to our Law makers, Law executors, to our citizens, to stand up for the laws of the country. We asked of them to look at these institutions and answer if they should not be under the control of the laws of the land, which now like our mobs are subject only to the laws of the Priest. We wished to know of them and the community if it was lawful for unmarried Priests to keep Females enclosed in private jails or work houses. We called for an investigation of an occurrence that took place in that convent, when the loud piercing, imploring cries for HELP-HELP-arrested the attention of six respectable citizens who were passing. The Archbishop was called upon

* See May No. of 1835 for the following statement.

We whose uames are subscribed hereto, declare and certify, that on or about theday of 183-about nine o'clock at night, as we were returning home from a Meeting in the Mehodist Protestant church, at the corner of Pitt and Aisquith streets; and when opposite the CARMELITE CONVENT and school in Aisquith street, our attention was suddenly arrested, by a LOUD SCREAM ISSUING FROM THE UPPER STORY OF THE CONVENT. The sound was that of a FEMALE VOICE, INDICATING GREAT DISTRESS; we stopt and heard A SECOND SCREAM; AND THEN A THIRD, in quick succession, accompanied with the cry of HELP! HELP! OH! LORD! HELP! WITH THE APPEARANCE of GREAT EFFORT. After this there was nothing more heard by us during the space of ten or fifteen minutes; we remained about that time on the pavement opposite the buildeng from which the cries came.

When the cries were first heard, no light was visible in the fourth story, from which the cries seemed to issue. After the cries, lights appeared in the second and third stories, -seeming to pass rapidly from place to place, indicating haste and confusion. Finally all lights disappeared from the second and third stories, and the house became quiet. No one passed along the street where we stood, while we stood there. But one of our party was a man, and he advanced in life; all the remainder of us were women. watch was not set, as some of us heard 9 o'clock cried, before we got home.

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for an explanation. Did he give one? Yet how many silly attempts at explanation have been given. Now sir, you are the man that declared your readiness "to die on the steps of the convent." Was it to keep those iron bars bolted fast upon the female victims ? or was it to exhibit your zeal for your new mother? We called upon you among others to investigate this matter, and we ask you sir, would it not have been as much to your credit to have inquired if it were even possible that any such things could have occurred as that stated?

Is it so that this land is the land of the free, the home and refuge of the oppressed, and shall those who have always been tyrants and oppressors in popish countries here be permitted to erect institutions which in other countries have been the seats of that oppression, and yet no law of the land protect or defend those who having been beguiled by them, are subject to their power? Are you the man that will stand up in the face of this community to defend such oppression and tyranny? What have we done sir but lift a voice against such conduct and the system which engenders such oppression? And declare to the public the evidence that we have of the unchangeableness of the papacy in corruption and oppression. Turn to that article which you have thus particularly made mention of and you find the following:

We call upon the community at large, to frown upon such es"tablishments. Let no man violate any law, even bad ones. Let the persons, property, and rights of all be held sacred. We are no Je"suits; we know that no end can justify any improper means.—But "public sentiment can and ought to be enlightened, roused, and "turned with irresistible power, against these NUNNERIES. The "laws ought to be so made that the poor victims may get out: they ought to be so executed, that the civil authorities should "statedly, constantly, promptly interfere, to see what wrong is done, and redress it.-The rulers of these convents ought to be brought to justice for crime, just like all other criminals."

What is there in this sir that can be objected to, as improper or in any way unlawful? Is it not what every honest man would desire and every man who remembered the helpless, friendless condition of these females should exert himself to have brought about.

Will you tell us what protection any of these females have? What friends have they to whom they can fly from the dominion of the Priest? what Catholic would dare receive them, especially when the Priest whom he is bound to venerate, shall say they are turning heretics? And to what Protestant family willthey go for refuge? As a man, answer these questions.

Many of us have freely spoken of these things on their occurrence And now at the request of Messrs. B.& C. & M. we give this statement, which we solemnly declare to be irue; and sign it with our names.

Baltimore, March 13th, 1835.

Signed

JOHN BRUSCUP,
LAVINIA BROWN,

SOPHONIA Bruscup,
HANNAH LEACH,
SARAH E. BAKER,
ELIZABETH POLK.

This is to certify, that John Bruscup, Hannah Leach, Sophonia Bruscup, Lavinia Brown, and Sarah E. Baker, are acceptable members, of the Methodist Protestant

Church of Pitt street station.

Baltimore March 12,

They are practical questions. They refer to all that is past in the history of these institutions-to the facts which are daily coming to light in this land, and proving the connection of the present with the past, and both with the oppression and tyranny of the priests. Do you then say sir we must keep quiet? Shall such things be suffered and no one cry out against them, without being called Fanatics and Persecutors ?

As you have gone so far out of your way* in giving your testimony as to pass your opinions upon the character of this work and denounce it before the committee, you could but expect that you should be held responsible for those opinions.

Now let us turn the subject. You are a convert from Episcopacy to Popery, and from what we have been able to learn, you are a very honest and conscientious man in your faith and practice. Those who are educated in a system may never ask for a reason of their faith. But those who go over from Protesting against Popery, to embrace its tenets and obey its precepts ought to have some reason for their choice-we don't want fifty. You think us fanatics for what we have said in defence of the principles which you once held for speaking against those which you now profess. Look now at your new faith

I. "THERE is NO SALVATION FOR ANY ONE OUT OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH." Not even for your Protestant Brethren. This is not very liberal!

II.

"It is the duty of every Romanist, regularly to confess all of his sins, mortal and venial, to the priest-be he good or bad-moral or profligate;—and he can really forgive them." This is very much like giving a man's conscience into the keeping of a Priest, to obey his dictates,-to be saved or damned, as he chooses!

III. "You must believe in Purgatory, and that the souls of those who are there will be helped out by the prayers and ALMS of Catholics." How a soul gets out of Purgatory and when, would most likely puzzle the ingenuity of your Priests. As you have embraced this doctrine, can you afford a reason for it? One good one will do.

IV. "You must believe that the Priest can take a quantity of flour, part of which he will make into bread and part into wafers;part he will eat-part he blesses, and swears it is God-nay, the very God-the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ our

* On pages 53 and 54, of this testimony, we have the following question by Mre Mc MAHON. His reason for proposing them, and the protest of Mr. Ely, on th ground of their irrelevancy

Cross interrogatory by Mr. McMahon, to Mr. Blair.

Do you know whether before or about the time of the riots in August last, there was any expectation or apprehension of an attack by a mob upon the Carmelite Convent in the city of Baltimore; and if so, whether any and what measures were taken to prevent it? Was not a general apprehension to this effect entertained?

In the month of August previously to the general riots, a gentleman belonging to the Roman Catholic Church called upon me and stated" that apprehensions were enterained for the safety of that institution; that the friends of the Church would be expected at the signal understood by them from the Cathedral bell, to repair to the institution for its defence; that in the event of such signal he requested this deponent should attend, as his official station and personal efforts to prevent the mischief might have great effect, and hoped that he would attend to that matter. The apprehension was generally entertained so far as his knowledge extends.

Mr. Ely desired his protest to be entered on the minutes of the proceedings to the putting any questions in relation to the Carmelite Institute, because of their irrelevancy.

Lord; who is over all God blessed forever." Every Priest does this thousands of times in the course of his life, and every time, creates so many Gods, whole and entire. Each of these or as many as were administered are eaten, or swallowed, whole and entire, by the faithful Catholic. Therefore there have been and now are (for God once existing certainly cannot be destroyed) as many millions of Gods, as there have been consecrated wafers!!!

This is the great corner stone of Popery, for rejecting which hundreds and thousands of men and women have been put to death, in the most barbarous and brutal manner. And Now your church says we are damned, and shall be damned, if we do not believe it. We Protestants reject this, and before we shall embrace it, or worship such a ridiculous idol, by the grace of God we will die as did our fathers.

This is the doctrine to which you had necessarily to give your assent, before you could become a Roman Catholic. Will you point us to a doctrine maintained by any class or denomination of Protestants, equal in absurdity to this fundamental doctrine of Popery? It would be becoming in you to be scarce with the term "Fanatical," until you have cleared yourself of a doctrine which at least savours of blasphemy. Many more points might be hinted at, but the four mentioned are enough to exhibit the system which you have embraced, at least until you can give us your reasons for embracing them and a better defence of your charges.

MEMORANDA OF FOREIGN TRAVEL,

BY RO: J. BRECKINRIDGE.

The Canton and City of Geneva and the region round about.—Its past history, condition.-Calvin as a Reformer; as a Statesman.His cotemporaries and successors.-The former estimation of Geneva.-The general religious declension of the last century.―That declension at Geneva.-Sketch of the National Church to its final apostacy.-Arian version of the Scriptures, and rupture with the B. & F. Bible Society.-Succession of truth even in the Church of Geneva.The universal religious impulse of the present century.—Its origin and progress at Geneva.-Its present state.-Dr. Malan.-The Church of the Bourg de Four.-The Evangelical Society.-Colporteurage.Efforts to preach the gospel at home and abroad.-School of Theology. -The magnitude and importance of its efforts.-State of the national Clergy and of the People.-The Grand Council of the Republic.The Cimetiere de l'Egalite.-Monuments and Inscriptions.

THE Canton of Geneva is the smallest of all that compose the confederation, and was the last of the 22 which united itself with the others. This statement is made without reference to the rural part of the Canton of Balse, which has been separated from the City of Balse of late years, so that strictly speaking there should be considered 23 Cantons-of which the Country Canton of Basle was the last admitted. Geneva contains only four geographical square miles of territory, and is smaller than Zug, the next least by three quarters of such a mile. The population of the Canton of Geneva