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The answer. The undertakers have license to transport all victuals and all manner of necessaries for their plantation custom free, and have been forward to make their provision from hence for the first year.

20. That their Lps. should procure a general warrant to my Lo. Deputy and the Commissioners to dispose of Harry Oge's country as they think fit, which is thought to be a safer course than to recite every man's name and quantity of land in the King's letter.

The answer. We think it reason that warrants be given to the Lo. Deputy and Commissioners (as is desired,) with caution that all be distributed to the issue male of Sir Henry Oge and their heirs. For this purpose the King's warrant is procured.

21. The Deputy desires allowance from hence to satisfy such sums of money to the old citizens of Derry, as they shall be compounded with for their estate made to them by Sir Henry Docwra and Sir George Paulett.

The answer. This is as much desired by us as can be by you, but seeing the Lo. Deputy finds with what difficulty the present charge is supplied, he hopes the King will fall into some timely consideration, so to ease that, as this which is desired and necessary may be put in execution.

22. That their Lps. would move the King for a proportion of some 20,000l. to be laid up in store in Ireland, not to be touched or expended without a foreign invasion, or some great revolt at home.

The answer. We think this demand very reasonable, and the rather that it would be a mean to repell all sudden invasions and suppress all sudden rebellions, so that a house be taken for the safe disposing of it and having it in a readiness.

Sir Oliver Lambert, Sir Roger Wilbraham, Sir Anthony St. Leger, Sir Ja. Ley, Sir Jas. Fullerton.

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KNIGHTS and BURGESSES to be sent to the Parliament out of the Government of Conaught.

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Counties. Roscomon, Galway, Mayo, Sligo, Letrim. cannot assure myself of these five counties of more than two Protestants.

Ancient boroughs.-Galway, Athenry. No hope of any Protestants from these.

A new borough.-Athlone. There will be sent two Pro

testants.

Boroughs to be erected.-Roscomon, Carra Frumnisk, Sligo, Castlebarre. All these will send Protestants, unless some doubt be of Sligo, whereunto upon better advice may be added.

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To be newly erected.--Loghreagh. Being an ancient walled town and corporation, and the Earl's principal seat, peradventure they will send Papists, for it will gratify the opinion of partiality in erecting the new boroughs.

Tuam.-The Archbishop's chief seat, which will send Pro

testants.

Boyle, Ballenasloe.-The one being Sir John Kinge's, the other Malbye Brabazon's, both places well inhabited and will send Protestants.

Ballenefadd, Burtesowte.-Being the King's fortress and may well be made boroughs and will send Protestants.

So I hope the Government of Conaght will send to the Parliament 22 Protestants for 14 Papists.

Signed: Ol. St. John,

P. 1. Endorsed.

REMEMBRANCES to be thought of touching the Parliament. 1. It were convenient that all the knights and burgesses of the Lower House of Parliament should take the oath of supremacy, as they do in England, otherwise not to be admitted; the laws of that realm enjoining all men to swear it. But if it shall seem too sharp to be offered, yet a rumour that it is required will be a means to increase the number of Protestant burgesses and knights, and deter the most spirited Recusants from being of the house.

2. That according to the manner of England the Lords Spiritual and Temporal should be commanded to deliver their votes of content or non-content with an audible voice, and not to rise from their places and whisper in the Lo. Chancellor's ear. According to his report the Bills are past or rejected, and the Lo. Chancellor is bound not to repeat who is with or against the Bill.

3. The choice of the Speaker at the Parliament is very material. Of Irish birth there are none to be trusted, and if there were, there is none living meet for that place, by reason of their many years and little experience. The best choice which I can think of is the King's Attorney General, who has been a burgess in many Parliaments in England.

4. K. H. 8 fearing to find opposition in Parliament as well for the title of King of Ireland, for his Supremacy and suppression of the abbeys, to make the passing of the bill more easy, feigned occasion to send for such lords and gentlemen of quality whom he suspected, and kept them in England during the Parliament. The like may be done now if there is occasion.

5. There are not now above four Spiritual, and the like number of Temporal Lords living, that ever sat in Parliament. The new bishops are assuredly unprovided with robes, and I think, most of the Lords Temporal are destitute of them;

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wherefore there must be convenient time given (after the summons) before Parliament commences, to provide for that defect.

6. Besides the three infant lords, (now in minorities,) whereby the Recusant party is weakened, the Lo. Barry cannot by right be admitted to sit as a peer, for he has an elder brother deaf and dumb yet living, and for that cause he was sequestered by the house in the Parliament held by Sir John Perrott. His name is now set down in the list among the other peers.

7. The like question may be made of the Lord Bourke of Castleconnell, whose elder brother has a son living, and by his friends called Lord Bourke. His uncle alleges that he is a bastard, but the boy is not yet proved to be so. Upon this allegation only, his said uncle assumes the name of Lord. How he may be called to the Parliament (before his right is determined) is to be considered.

8. The Lord Coursie is the heir male to his uncle the last Coursie, whose ancestors were called by writ, whereby the honour in right ought to descend upon the late Lord Coursie's heir general, who is a daughter yet living, but unworthily married to a base, beggarly kerne, it were better therefore to leave the lordship where it is, unthought of by her and her husband than to meddle in it.

9. To strengthen the Higher House the Earl of Shrewsbury may send his proxy thither as being Earl of Waterford and Wexford, for although by the statute of absentees his land in Ireland is lost, yet the same does not deprive him of his honour.

10. Also the Lord Henry O'Brien, heir apparent to his father the Earl of Tomond, a young gentlemen about 23 years old and a sound Protestant, is meet to be called by writ, the motive whereof may be the merit of his father, who is an extraordinary well-deserving lord in that realm.

11. The L. Audeley lives in Ireland, and may be served with a writ if it be thought needful.

12. It is probable that the Earl of Clanricard will not be at the Parliament, and I think that he will send his proxy to the Earl of Tomond, yet, for more surety, it were not amiss that he were advised to do so.

13. The Baron of Athenrie, for mere poverty, will be absent. He may be dealt withal by Sir Oliver St. John, Vice-President of Connoght, to confer his proxy upon some Protestant lord.

14. If his Majesty resolves to confer honour upon the Lo. Deputy before the Parliament, it is fit to be considered whether he should be created or called by writ. If created, I conceive some man must be chosen and authorised by commission (for that day) under the Great Seal to be L. Deputy, unto whom he must be presented, and from whom (according to the form of creation) he must receive his letters

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patent. If he be called by writ, whether it be needful to grant forth any such commission I am ignorant. His being Lo. Deputy is so far different from other men's quality, as is worthy the consideration, being out of the ordinary rule of creation or calling by writ. But I am sure of his desire to be created.

15. By the list under the Deputy's hand, it appears that there are in Ireland 19 Spiritual and 25 Lords Temporal, in all 44, and, according to that list, the Protestant party oversways the Recusants by seven' voices and no more. But if the Ls. Barry and Bourke be not admitted and the Earls of Shrewsbury and Clanricard and the Baron of Athenrye send their proxies to Protestant lords and the Earl of Tomond's son and the L. Audeley called by writ, the Protestant lords will overtop the Recusants by 14 voices, which (ad majorem cautionem) I wish.

16. The long forbearance of Parliament in Ireland will be an occasion for want of experience of many errors in both the houses, the form and order (used in them) being almost forgotten. The Lower House by reason of many English gentlemen that have been burgesses in England will err less than the other, for of 44 Lords Ecclesiastical and Temporal within that realm, there are not (the Earl of Ormond being accounted one, who by reason of his weakness will be absent,) above eight that ever saw more than one short Parliament.

The L. Chancellor, the Bp. of Methe, the Abp. of Cashell, the Bp. of Killalow, the Bp. of Corke, the Earl of Tomond, the L. of Dunboyne, the L. of Upper Osserie, I conceive, the Chancellor excepted, observed little or nothing of the orders of the house, wherefore I think it expedient that some votes out of the books (kept by the clerks of the Parliament House) should be sent to the L. Deputy for his and their instruction; for precedents of former times have been by negligence and change of officers either lost, or so ill kept as little or nothing remains; whereof at my being there, I had this experience, that the officers almost in a month's search could not deliver to the L. Deputy the Parliament list of those names which sat in Sir John Perrott's time.

Holograph by Carew.

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94. A PROJECT of SIR THOMAS PHILLIPS for the Londoners' plantation in the county of Colrane and the Derry sent

to Robert Earl of Salisbury, Lord High Treasurer of England.

I have thought good to acquaint you with sufficient reasons to encourage the city of London to disburse 50,000l. for the present plantation of the late ruined cities of Derry and Colrane,

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being one of the most famous enterprizes that hath of long time been; and which without doubt will redound to the great good of the King's service as well in England, Scotland as Ireland; remaining a perpetual strength to that kingdom, and an everlasting memory to the city of London.

Here follows an estimate of the charge of the city of Derrie :

For fortification for the present, 6,000l.; 100 houses at 1007. a house, 10,000l.; storehouse or magazine for arms and munition, 2007.; storehouses for merchandize, 150l.; brewhouse, 2001.; arms and munition, 100%.; tools for fortificaton, 50l. ; locks, hooks, hinges, &c., 40l.; bakehouse, 50l.; rent to the King * 16,790%.

An estimate of the charge for the city of Colrane :—

Fortification, 4,500l.; 100 houses at 751. a house, 7,500l.; magazine or storehouse for arms and munition, 2007.; storehouse for merchandize, 150l.; locks, hooks, hinges, and such like, 40l.; tools for fortification, 50l.; brewhouse, 150l.; bakehouse, 50l.; arms and munition, 50%.; rent to the King 12,7407.

An estimate of other needful charges, viz. :

Cattle and tillage to stock lands which will bring the corn down at a low rate, by which means great gain may be made by transporting it into other countries, 2,800l. ; flyboats and hoys for transporting commodities, 2,2001.; fort in Clinconcane or Glinn to lodge the workmen, which will serve for a market, 500l.; factors, servants, and other extraordinaries, 1,000l.; charge of five sufficient men, viz., two from the city and with them a mathematician, an engineer for the fortification, and one skilful in iron works, 500l.; storehouses at Knockvergus, 150l.; Newry, 150l.; Calbegg, 2007.; Messareene, 1007.; fort and storehouse at Ban Brazell, 2007.; 12 teams of horses, 6 at the Newry, and 6 at Knockvergus, 2801.; three bridges with castles on certain rivers, 400l.; 16 horses to be continually in the woods, 1407. ;=8,6201. Sum total, 38,150.

The profit that is to be raised upon the lands, wood, commodities, and fishings, viz. :

1. Profit of the remainder of the 50,000l. being* which is to remain in stock, to be employed in these commodities, viz., pipe staves will stand them in but 408. and 458. a thousand brought to the water side. There may be bred in the woods 20,000 swine if need be, which I value to be a matter of great moment for bacon and pork. The profit may be worth 3 or 4,000l. per annum.

Beef at reasonable rate, viz., 208. a beef. Hide and tallow commonly worth between 88. and 98. so as the four quarters are old for 128. For the hide the ordinary price is from 68. so

*Blank in M.S.