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81. THE AUDITOR's CERTIFICATE of the state of the REVENUE in

Ireland as appears among the Memoranda and Records of Ireland of 8 James 1, in the receipt of Thomas Redgwaye, Knight, Treasurer and Receiver-General there.

The ancient inheritance 8431. 1s. 11}d.; of new increase 1271.7s. 2d.; resignation of the Bishop of Dublin, 66s. 8d.; Shelelagh, 13/.6s. 8d., lands lately exchanged, 133l. 6s. 8d.; lands of the Duke of Norfolk, 50l. 8s. 4d. ; lands of the Earl of Shrewsbury, 70s. 6d.; Cartmell, Furnes, and Osneye, 311.3s.3d.; Bristol Abbey in England, 25l.1s 10}d.; Kensham Abbey in England, 40l. 10s. ; Bath Abbey, 30s.; St. Peter and St. Paul of Lanthony, 53s. 4d. ; Lanthony near Glocester, 424!.6s. 1d.; St. Ninian near Exeter, 4l. 13s. 4d.; lands attainted, 1,163l. 1s. 11!d.; O'Moores and O'Konnors, 464l. 58. 2+d.; St. John's of Jerusalem, 608l. 5s. 6d.; Thomas Courte, 526l. 4s. 10; d.; St. Mary's Abbey, 2431. 7s. 4d.; monasteries and religious houses, 4,477.l.. 13s. 6d. ; lands surrendered, 1,1811 11s. 7}d.; Bonnaght, 531.; tributes, nil totaliter in super annuatim ; small farms, 112s. 4d.; procurations, 611. 0s. 4d.; lands of wards, 101l. 68.6%d.; grants for making aqua vitae, 11s. 8d.; impost of wines, 1,866l. 13s. 4d. ; custom of the yarn, 1331.6s. 8d.; undertakers of Mounster, 2,245l. ; composition of the pale, 2,505l.; of Connaught, 3,000l. (freedoms and wastes allowed); of Munster, 1,433l.; Monoghan rents, 634l. 6s. 8d.; northern plantation not yet in charge; casualties one year with another by estimate, 2,500l. Total 24,907l. 13s. 4d.

Mem.—The rents conveyed in super this year amount unto 2,237l, which being alleged not due, yet stand in charge until they are discharged by matter of record, and adding hereunto the supers which have been usually certified in former declarations, and omitted in the total of this revenue now answered, they amount to more than any former declaration notwithstanding divers rents discharged by grants from his Majesty in fee simple. Item, the proxies here charged at 611. 0s. 4d. and certain rents in Monoghan, amounting to 100l. sterling per annum, have been granted lately by the King to the Bishop of Meath, parcel of this declaration. 10th October, 1611.

P. 1. Latin. Endd.

82. Of the first establishment of English laws and Parliaments

in the kingdom of Ireland, by Archbishop Usher.
Copy. Pp. 15. End.

83. A discourse of the original and first institution of Corbes,

Heneraches and Termon Lands, by Archbishop Usher.
Copy. Pp. 28. End.

1611. October 12, 84. The Lo. DEPUTY to the CouncIL in ENGLAND touching Vol. 629, p. 19. matters treated of with LORD CAREW.

I have received great satisfaction that it has pleased the King to send my Lo. Carew, to view the state of affairs, how they are, and have been carried on. For sure I am, having been thus long conversant with us in the occurrances of this time, he will be more able and ready to do service to the King and this state. The principal things which we have treated and debated with him have been concerning the lessening of the King's present charge, the improvement and increase of his revenues and receipts, the summoning of a Parliament in convenient time, the success of the plantation of Ulster, and how far that of Munster hath been performed by the undertakers. 1. For diminution of the King's present charge, the expenses issue forth many ways; as in entertainments to the Deputy and State officers, to the presidents, commanders and officers of the army, to the judges and officers of the courts of justice, and to pensioners. And as for the new increases which have been since made, they were either done by virtue of the King's letters, or else of your Lordship's, signifying the King's pleasure, as will appear by the quotations upon the books of payments out of the treasury and revenues, which my Lord Carew has to present. As for the entertainments of the horse troops now in the King's pay by the establishment of the 1st of October 1608, amounting yearly to the sum of 8,7021.4s.2d., and of the foot companies, amounting unto 32,489l. 11s. 3d., and of the wards, which amount unto 8,5111.7s. 1d, yearly, I have been persuaded, in consideration of the abatement of charge which I understand to be looked for at my hands, to discharge so many of them as will save the King yearly 13,893l, &c. But as for the other entertainments and pensions granted by letters patent, it is not in my power so to deal with them. Notwithstanding, I must confess that I was far more willing to ease the King that way than to abate the strength of the horse and foot, who were ready at all times to prosecute any service. Those that hold companies and wards by the King's special letters of favour, or by letters patent are, for the most part, the youngest captains. The pensions now chargeable to the King yearly, amount to the sum of 11,555l. 5d., payable out of the treasure and revenues, and yet there is no profitable use to be had of the pensioners at any sudden need. Many of these pensions may perhaps be abated if the oath of supremacy be once tendered unto the parties, and such as shall refuse discharged as being unworthy of favour. I intend that this present reducement shall take effect everywhere by the 11th of next month. It cannot conveniently be done sooner, because many of the garrisons and


wards are far distant. Besides it is not safe that the natives
of Ulster, (who are peremptorily required to depart from their
habitations under the British undertakers at Alhallowtide
next, and thenceforth settle themselves upon their own portions,
“or else upon the Church lands) and the servitors should not
by this occasion be animated to contemn what they are so
commanded to obey.” I hold it not safe to discharge any
more of the forces.
I have been given to understand that it was expected I
should have advised a reducement of the King's charge of
soldiers here before this time. But I consider that the list of
the year 1608 was established by the King's hand, which
it behoved me not either to diminish or alter without
The malignity of the idle people of this realm, who are
called gentlemen, is so incorrigible and fatal unto the rest,
and their habit and manner of living has been so little
reformed by observation among the British, or penalties of
the laws, that they are apt to return to afflict such of our
nation as would dwell among them and expel them by force.
Again, there is so general an offence and despair now taken
at the manner and drift of the new plantation intended, as
is like to hasten them to a like disturbance thereof, except
they be restrained by force.
The King's intention of bringing colonies out of Great
Britain does not go so forward as is to be wished. Most of
our countrymen come over hither to look upon their portions
how they can like them, and so return back again, rather
than with an intention to adventure their persons or substance
in the plantation; and those that go about to plant them-
selves here and there, do it with such weakness as if they
were for either not able or not willing to go so straight with
what they ought and are bound to do.
Now admit that three or four undertakers should be felon-
iously burned or spoiled by wood kerne in any part of the
province, I am persuaded that it would so discourage the rest,
who are not come over, that this design would be interrupted
for many years.
I considered also that a reducement and civilising of some
other wild countries was intended; and that as for the
improvement of the King's customs and other revenues a
Parliament was shortly to be holden, wherein either some
displeasing laws might pass, or not be executed afterwards,
that reformation of religion and church government was
expected, that the Jesuits, seminary priests, and other seditious
ministers, were intended to be banished out of the realm,
and therefore observing the diminution of our forces, they
would again take new courage and resolution to stay, and so
hinder and supplant whatsoever was well begun or intended.
I was of opinion also, in consideration of all this, as also that


the good speed of the plantation, specially the security of the
undertakers with the administration and proceedings of justice,
until castles and houses were erected by the British, did rest
chiefly in the force and protection of those few horse and foot
remaining to this time. Of these it might be justly said
that every 10 of them were worth 50 new men, as being
extracted out of many thousands who are dead and gone.
I was further of opinion that it was an unseasonable time
to discharge them, because the nights growing long and dark,
the wood kerne and other malefactors who dare not begin
at other times, are now aptest to declare their malice. Thus
much I hope may excuse me why I have not eased the
King of a great part of his expenses, and why I have neither
advised nor made any reducement of the last establishment
until this time. Whether I have now done it seasonably I
leave to further experience.
2ndly. Concerning the increase of the King's revenues, &c.,
we have established the customs in all the port towns of
this realm, except those of Dublin, Waterforde, Gallowaie
and Drogheda, which standing upon their privileges and
refusing to pay poundage, are now by commission under the
Great Seal charged with the imposition of 12d., upon the
pound, in lieu of custom, out of all goods to be exported or
imported not being custom free. Since then we have found
out many small heads, from which further profits may be
drawn. All these are contained in a book delivered to my
L. Carew.
3rdly. As the King intends to make sale of several of his
lands here in fee farm, and to lay a portion of treasure here
in deposit, to answer sudden occasions for levying men, &c.,
I am of opinion that this will be a much better course than
to keep it in his hands without any extraodinary profit, or
to give it away in fee farm gratis. I, therefore, expect a
commission with convenient instructions, that we may make
trial of it among people wanting money and having too much
4thly. We have not omitted to deliberate concerning
the summons of the Parliament, nor to consider how the
house is like to be composed of persons of contrary drifts
and affections. I have delivered my conceit thereof in
writing unto my Lo. Carew. I am of opinion that the next
spring or summer will be a fit time.
5thly. Concerning the success of the plantation of the
escheated lands of Ulster, though they are sufficiently touched
and taxed already, yet the particular and true state thereof
is laid down in several books delivered also to Lo. Carew,
who, has with great pains travelled about the whole province
and made observations, and is able to give the King an
account of what he hath seen and heard.
Lastly. The other older plantation of Munster has been
also inquired of, and order has been given for extracting brief


collections of the defects, which as soon as they are finished shall be sent after my Lo. Carew.

Dublin Castle, 12th Oct. 1611.
Signed: Arthur Chichester.

Addressed and endorsed: Copy of the L. Deputie's letter to the Llds., by my Lo. Carew.

Copy. Pp. 7.

Vol. 629, p. 41. 85. A NoTE of how many CITIES and BoRoUGH Towns are to

send Burgesses to the Parliament in Ireland out of every County in every several Province.

Mounster, containing 7 counties, viz., Cork, 7; Waterford, 3; Kerry, 2; Tipperary, 1 ; Crosse, 2; Limerick, 3; Clare, 1; whereof 8 new boroughs to be erected. Leinster, containing 12 counties, viz., Kilkenny, 5; Caterlogh, 1; Louth, 4; Queen's, 2; King's, 1; Westmeath, 3; Meath, 4; Dublin, 3; Kildare, 2; Wexford, 2.; Wicklo, 0; Longford, 0; whereof 3 new boroughs and the University to be erected. Connaught, containing 5 cos, Galloway, 2; Rorskoman, 1; Letrim, 1; Sligo, 1; Mayo, 1; whereof 4 new burgesses are to be erected. Ulster, containing 9 counties, Down, 3; Antrim, 3; Colerane, 1 ; Donnegal, 5; Tirone, 4; Ardmagh, 3; Cavan, 3; Fermanagh, 1; Monaghan, 1; whereof 22 new boroughs are # :* Cities, 9; old boroughs, 31; new boroughs, 6 = 76. Endorsed in Lo. Carew's handwriting: “The counties of Ireland and how many boroughs there are in every county that have been of old and must be erected to send burgesses to Parliament. The Higher House consists of lords spiritual and temporal, 44. The Lower House in knights of shires, 66; in burgesses, 152; in all, 218. The numbers of both the Houses amount unto 262.”

Copy. P. 1.

Vol. * ** 86. The NoPILITY of IRELAND being Lords of Parliament in


Earls:—Kildare, FitzGerrald; Ormond, Butler; Thomond, O'Bryen; Clanricard, Bourke. Wiscounts: — Botevante, Barry; Fermoye, Roch; Gormanston, Preston; Mountgarret, Butler; Tulloe Phelime, Butler. Barons:- Athenry, Bremingham; Kilsale, Courcy; Lixnawe, FitzGerrald; Slane, Fleminge; Delvine, Nugent; Houth, St. Lawrence; Killene, Plunket; Trimlestor, Barnwell ; Downsany, Plunket, infant; Donboine, Butler; Upper Ossery, FitzPatrick; Louthe, Plun

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