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of April, p. 588, where, after having endea “ for the public service without a great loss, voured to show the absurdity of believing, Lord Melville, conceiving that the, naval that there were no accounts kept, it was ob “ service would suffer no inconvenience, served, that, there must be an account “advanced the sum required. The security " somewhere; and, this account ought to be given by Boyd and Benfield, consisted of " produced, not written with fresh ink nor “ India Company's bonds and bills, and also “in the hand writing of the parties. If it “ of some government securities. The sum "cannot be produced, the books of Coutt's “has been since repaid, lut without in" and Co. ought to be regarded as full evi terest.” Without interest ! But, this is * dence of Lord Melville's having shared a circumstance of no more importance than « with Mr. Trotter to the aggregate amount any other of the circumstances: the whole s of the sams placed against the name of transaction, if truly represented in this ab" the former in the mixtie maxtie accounts stract, is as dark as it can possibly be. Lend" of the latter.” This point has now been ing loan-jobbers money; the peoples' mosettled. The account has been demanded; ney; money already raised in taxes; to and it has been proved, if the above abstract enable those loan-jobbers to lend that same be authentic, that “all VOUCHERS, &c. money to the people! This is quite new; - have been DESTROYED ;" and that, perfectly original; nothing like it, nothing too, as it would seem, reciprocally, and even bearing the most distant resemblance to it in concert! Of persons detected in having so ever before entered the mind of man. But, acted every thing is to be presumed. What! only think of the “ good security !" It condestroy vouchers! For what? A mutual de sisted of " India bonds, and also of some struction of vouchers; that is to say, of evi “ government securities." Well, then, why dences of transactions between the parties ! could not Boyd and Benfield, with these Was there ever such a thing heard of before, same securities, have got the money elsea except in cases of conscious guilt, accompa where? That question I should like to have nied with its usual associates, a dread of the answered. Why could they not have borconsequences of detection and a want of con rowed the money of soniebody other than tidence in the accomplice?

Mr. Pitt? other than that same government Nr. Pitt's Case. The Morning Post, whom they were going to lend it to ? Was of the date above-mentioned, and in the ab it that they could find nobody else generous stract before quoted, contains two passages enough to lend it them without interest ? upon the conduct of Mr. Pitt, which passages That would have been no very foolish reaI shall extract, and then insert the remark son ; but, surely, there must bave been ans made upon them by the ministerial news other. Where is the proof that they gave paper, the Sun. The passages relate, | any security at all? W]iere is the record of Ist, to money said to have been borrowed their having given “ good security?When by Mr. Pitt, as Chancellor of the Exchequer and to whom did they pay back the money? and First Lord of the Treasury, from Lord | It was returned to the Treasurer of the NaMelville, as Treasurer of the Navy, and lent vy; but who took it from Boyd and Benfield? by Mr. Piti to Boyd and Benfield, to enable Into whose hands did those worthy Juan, them to make good an instalment upon a jobbers pay it? Upon this head the abstract loan which they had made to the government; | is silent ; yet, these are questions that reand, 2d, to information said to be given to quire to be answered. This transaction, if Mr. Pitt, in the year 1797, of the mal it be truly described in the newspapers, practices of Messrs. Dundas and Trotter. seems to me to strike at the very root of

The loan of 40,000), which the committee public credit. People have hitherto regard"remark was decidedly against the law, ed a loen as a lenů fide bargain. They have

was made under circumstances with res never imagined, that it was not binding upon pect to the state of the country of a very the jobber; and, that, if it did not suit him peculiar nature. Mr. Boyd represented, to make good his payments, the people vere on his application to ministers, that he to make them good for him.--It this abs was under great pecuniary difficulties, and stract be correct, we can. 10 bouger lave any requested accommodation. This accom faith in such transactions. There is no modation was granted, good securi!y living knowing to what a length these “ accomgiver; and it being considered, as “modations" nay be carried; nay, there "stated in the evidence, that if the accom is no knowing to what a length they have

modation were refused, the house of Boyd been carried; for what is now come out is and Benfield might have failed also. To come out by there accident. Aud yet tha

prevent such consequences, whiel, ii they writers in the Sox newspaper, exus, and " should occur, it would, according to evi even junity the conduct.ot Mr. tilby upon 4 dence, be difficult to conclude a Dew luan chuisappositiu, bakit buducibed in

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on such details in any other way; that in they, in their paper of the 28th, “ under: " bis coutersation with Lord Melville he “ stand that Mr. Whitbread's mulion against "* did not advert to the provisions of the act “ Mr. Pitt is to be grounded upon the fact which forlid such transfers, nor did it be• of a sum of forty thousand pounds having cur to him that drawing from the Bart' ** been advanced to Messrs. Boyd aud Een such sums of money in such a way for the « field, a measure which, from every thing purpose of carrying on the details of of

we have heard of the circumstance, was fice, was on illegal practice -Relying * completely justified by the pressure of the ou the rectitude of Lord Melville, from

case, and the omission of which might the opinion he entertained of him, he “ have been attended with consecuences " made no inquiry as to the necessity of the " highly detrimental to the public interest.". prcetir?, and was so fır satisfied with me

There is 70 crime which these writers general statement given by that noble would not justify. It is an intimiy to the lord, that he did not think it necessary to country, that such sentiments slould be en " communicate the circumstances of the case dured by the public.---The passage relat to any other of his Majesty's ministers, or ing to Mr. Raikes's information to Mr. Fitt to tute any further steps on the subject. is as follows : “ The committee state, that “ He had no knowledge or informativa of " they do not find any representation on any naval money, the 40,0001. excepted, " this subject was made to the Lords of the being applied to other services, excett " Treasury, but that it was represented to “ from the communication of Mr. Raikes, Mr. Pitt, as appears from the evidence of “ until after his retirement from office kr " Mr. Raikes, and the admissiou of Mr. Pitt was acquainted of it ly Lord Harrowly. " himself. The Report states, that some • That nobie lord toldhini that he thongke the ► time in the year 1797, Mr. Raikes, Go pructice very singular, and was therefore

vernor of the Bank, had an oficial inter taking steps to put a stop to it."--Now, m view with Mr. Pitt. After 'official busi supposing this abstract correct, how will the

ness was at an end, he told Mr. Pitt, in reader account for Mr. Pitt's conduct? And “ conversation, the manner in which the where is the man, who has any regard for

public money was drawn from the Bank his character, that will dare to offer an es.

by the Treaturer of the Navy; that he cuse for it? There is no room for comment “ had heard the treasurer (Lori Melville) here; but, I cannot conclude, without ask

kept cash at Coutts's, and that navy billsing, whether it was possible for Mr. Pitt to

were paid by dratis on that house, instead think ligiily of the information of Mi. " of by drafts on the Biuk. Mr. Pitt Raikes, and whether it was possible for him is thanked Mr Rajkes for his information. to have forgotten the act of parliament, the " Such Mr. Raikes, in his evidence, states end and object of the act of parliansert, « to have been the purpurt of the conver which lad been violated? But, let us only “' saticn, but, from the length of time uint take a few dates. In 1797 Mr. Pitt 123 « bas since elapsed, he is not sure as to the first informed of the practices of Messrs.

terins.-Mr. Pitt admits the general Dundas and Trotter; in 1800 he was more

import of the conversation as stated by fully infirmed of them by Lord Harrowby; Mr. Raikes, but differs with him as to in 1501 le, nevertheless, places Lord-Me!

the terms. He don't undertche to recollect ville in the second office of the state, and in with accuracy, but status it in substance one liaving the command of that in which

to have conveyed to him an impression he had, to Mr. Pitt's knowiedge, before " that suips were drawn from the Bank and violated the law; he, at the same time, seet * carried to a private banking-house, to a Mr. Trotter restored; and lie advises the

larger amount than was supposed neces king to bestow`lpon Lord Melville a grant sary; that he took an early opportunity of 1,300). a year for lite, in addition to be “ of stäting to Lord Melville the informa already enormous income from the public * tion he received from Mr. Raikes; and purse!--[This subject will, of course, be " though he cannot state precisely what revired, when we shall have the report and “ further passed between himself and Lord evidence before us. What I have bere said, " Melvijle on the subject, he was impressed is merely upon a supposition that the abstract " with a lelief that no suns were to be trans so often quoted is correct, and for the pur; “ ferred but such as were necessary to carry on

pose of protesting against the scandalogs “ the details of service in payments to indivi sentiments promulguted in the minister is “ duals, and that it would be difficult to carry papers.] Printed by Cox and Bavlis, No. 7). Great Queen Street, and puulished by R. Busshas, Bow-Street, Corelite

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" Where the supreme authority, not content with winking at the rapacity of its inferior austumenes, is so ****střameless and corrupt as openly to give bounties and premiums for disobedience to its laws; when it will 16 Noc trust to the activity of avarice in the pursuit of its own gains; when i secures public roblery' by bail at ". the catelul jealousy and attention, with which it oucht to protect property irom such violence; the com** monwealth then is become corally perverted from its purposes; neither God nor man will long endure it';

nor will it long endure itself ; for, in that case, there is an unnatural infection, a pestilential taine feimenta * ing in the constitution of society, which fever and convulsions of some kind or other must dirow off.'. ---BURKE. Speech on the Nabob of Arcoi's Debts, 29 Feb. 1785. 833]

(334 (LOAD MELVILLE & MR. PITT'S took 'place between the Addingtons and CONDUCT.

Lord Melville and Mr. Pitt, which coalition The Report of the Select Committee, upon Mfr. Pitt himself solicited by means of alletthe matters relating to the conduct of Lord ter conveyed to Mr. Henry Addington Melville and Mr. Pitt, was laid before the through Lord Hawkesbury; that this junc. House of Commons on the 27th ultimo: it has tion, so formed, '30 songht for, so luinbly since been printed by order of that House, solicited, by Mr. Pitt, with persons whom he and is now published for the information of had turned out under the charge, openly and the people.The Report of any coinmit distinctly made, of '“ incapacity and inte tee, appointed for a pupose like the present, cillitj," excited very great and generaf is, comparatively, of little importance, when surprise, and was never satisfactorily acă the whole of the minutes of the Evidence counted for, till the Tenth Report of the Na accompany it, the report itself being merely val Commissioners discovered in how great a.summary of the evidence. It is, indeed, need Mr. Pitt and Lord Melville might stand something of the nature of the summing up of friendly comfort. When the reader lurs thus of a judge, at the close of an examination; refreshed his memory as to the occurrences but, it is less necessary, because the jury preceding the printing of the Tenth Report; have no minutes of the evidence, which, in let him look back to the conduct of Mr. Fitt the present instance, we have: and, if the previous to the discussion of the 8th of April summing up, and explanations of a report of when the resolution of censuré upou Jord a committee may, in any case, be dispensed Melville was passed; let him not forget that with, they surely may in this case ; ésper it was Mr. Pitt who brought forward the procially when we recollect all the circun position for receiving the Letter, which Lord stances, under which the committee was Melville wrote to the Naval Coinmissioners: formed.---The evidence, therefore, or, at after the printing of the Tenth Repoft; let: least, as much of it as I have room for, and him not forget, thatlit was Mr. Pitt, whodis: all of it that is very material, I am now puted the ground, inch by inch, for: Lord about to insert; and, to every part of it, I Melville on the 8th of April, after he had beg leave to heseech the aziention of the read, over and over again, the proofs of Lord reader, reminding him, at the same time, Melville's conduct; let him not forget, that it that, in order clearly to understand, and was Mr. Pitt, who opposed, on the both of instly to decide upon, the case of either of April, the motion for an address to the king the persons, who now stand accused before to remove Lord Melville from the prvy him, he must keep in his view the whole council, and that, at a subsequent perioi, he) bistory of the prosecution, from the first notified to the House that lie bnd advised the xamination of Trotter to the notice of the King to dismiss his Lordship, because he, motion to be made next Tuesday by Mr. had learnt that the Horse wished it, and beVhitbread. He must bear in mind, that it cause he was convinced, that any atteinst on vas in May, 1804, that Lord Melville and his part to prevent an address to the King nr. Pitt turned out the Addingtons, loading would prove abortive. Let the reader ut her with every species of reproach and coni forget these things; and, let him remena empi; that soon afterwards, June, 1901, ber, moreover, that wiien. a molido was Ir. Trotter. was first examined by the Na mrade for the purpose of forining a SELFCT al Commissioners; that Lord Melville was COMMITTIT to inquire further into the mitt. Titten to by those Commissioners in June, ters brought tư light by the Tenth Report. 804, and was examined by them on the that Ms. Pitt moved and carried as aingidth of November, 1804 ; that almost imme ment, so restraining the powers of the sid. alely after theat examination ä сpaliticu icommitiée as to render it very difficuit zor


them to touch upon any point, calculated be necessary than a sober and impartialça. Lord Melville and Mr. Trotter. As to the The whole, however, must be read. case of Mr. Pitt himself, let it be remember must be read, too, with care, and with a ed, that, though, Lord Melville was the man losing sight, for one moment, of the circuit.. who drew up the law', which has now beeir stances above, pointed out: When the violated, it was Mr. Pitt who coused it to be Terder has taken a few minutes to refresh ti drawn up; it was Mr. Pitt who introduced it meinory as to those circumstances, let kir to the House of Commons; it was Mr. Pitt sit down to the perusal; and, above who boasted, who bragged, of its salutary things, let him first banisti from bis tendency; it was Mr. Pitt who explained its mind every party propensity. He, double meaning, and who promised the Commonis, less, will, and he ought, to remena that, in future, all the naval


ber, that my fixed opinion is, tirat Mir lie at the Bank of England till the very mo Piti's sistem of administration is hostile ment it was unted for the service of the un the well-being of England ; and, of course, ry. Let this important fact be kept in that I earnestly wish to see that gentleman mind, while the reader is going through the no louger in power ; but, I trust, that no evidence of Mr. Pitt, Mr. Raikes, and Lord one will impute to me a desire so base as that Harrowby; and, I beg him to mark well the of seeing him sink undeservedly covered language of the answers of all these persons, with the infamous charge of haring condited as well, indeed, as of all the others that were at peculation, of having winked at the phunexamined.--As to the Committee, when dering of the parple and the sovereign, who the reader recollects how it was formed and bad contided to his hands the guardianship of composed; when he recollects, that it was their treasure. it is difticut, when the formed by ballot, that is to say, by lists sent temptation presents itself, to avoid taking round to the members, whereby he who has advantage of circumstances favouring one's a majority in the House is sure to have what views of general hostility; and, therefore, ever members he chooses upon the commit though, during the whole of the discussions tee; when the reader recollects this, and ob connected with this subject, I have endeaserves, besides, who were the persons com voured to detach my mind from all estraposing a majority of the committee, he will neous considerations, any reader, who may be satisfied, that there has been, on the part happen to place, generally, reliance upon of the committee, no partiality shown against iny opinions, will, in this particular instance, Mr. Pitt and his illustrious friend. -The do well to be upon his guard against them. heads, under which the subject divides itself Indeed, my opinions ought here to have no are THREE ; to wit; 1. The participation of weight with him. It is the fact and the seaLord Melville with Trotter in the profits soning: these cannot be affected by the made by an unlawful use of the naval mo source whence they proceed; and it in these ney: 2. Mr. Pitt's conniving at the with there be found no ground to condemın Mr. drawing of naval money from the Bank, and Pitt, I onyht to wish, and I hope I do nut his unlawfully lending a large sum of the deceive myself in declaring that I sincerely said money, to two loan jobbers, named wislı, that he may stand clearly acquitted in Boyd and Benfield, the latter of whom is the the eyes of all mankind. famous Paul Benfield, whose memorable transactions, in the years 1734 and 1785,

EVIDENCE, are recorded in Mr. Burke's Speech upon thie Reported to the House of Commons, on debts of the Nabob of Arcut: 3. Mr. Pitt's the sth of May, 1805, by the SELECT conniving at the withdrawing of naval mo COMMITTEE, appointed to examine into ar ney from the Bank of England to be lodged tain matters brought to light in the Tenth at the banking House of Coutts and Com Tieport of the Commissioners of Naval lipany, and, of course, to be made use of for quiry, relative to the conduct of purposes of private onolunent.------These LORD MELVILLE & MR. PITT. are the THREE HEADS, to one or the other of which all the evidence I am now about to lay before the reader will be found to relate. (LATE PAYMASTER OF THE NATY), ON He should keep them as distinct as possible THE 3D, 4TH, ÔTH, 7TH, gri, 10TH, in his mind. He will find the evidence a 23D, AND 27TH OF MIY, 1805. grond deal mixed, of course; but, though I 3d of day.Q. State to the comshall scarcely refrain from subjoining some mittee what sums were applied to services tyw observations, I cannot help expressing not naval, of the inonies issued for the ser my firm conviction, that nothing more will rice of the navy under the treasurership of






Lord Melville, to what amount, and at what 1803, when I was out of office.--Q. On time?, A. Lord Melville never gave me any your return froin your absensos, did Mr. information upon the application of monies Wilson give you a regular account in writing issued under such circumstances, and I only of his transactions in the Navy Pay Office judge of the sum all:aded to having been ap during such absences? A. No; he was not plied to other services, from the circumstance in the habit of doing so. Q. How then of its having been returned by a person act could you see or come at the knowledge of ing in another department of government.-- what those transactions had heen, or what Q. What was that suun? A. 40,000) 1. as fir the conduct of Mr. Wilson had been? 4. I I am inforned; it was not issued by me. was informed of his transactions, as I have

Q. Ko whom was it issued ? A. 'I be- | already said, by correspondence with him ; liere, b; Mr. Wilson, who officiated for me and trom his very high character and the during my absence, having been at that time perfect confidence which I hud in him, I did in Scotland. -Q. What was the date of not find it necessary to require more from the issue? 4. I am ļot enable to informi him than verbai explanations upon any paryou with any degree of .ccuracy, but I think ticular point of transactions wbich had taken it must have been some time between the place in my absence. -Q. Did Mr. Wilson middle of August and the end of October, in keep any account-books or ledgers in which the year 1796, R. Was Mr. Wilson em those transactions were registered?. A. I do employed to transact business for you during not believe that any entry was made in any your absence ? A. He was in the habit of leilger of the transactions which you have officiating for me, but not under any regular particularly alluded to. Q. (Repeated.) power, when I was absent from the office? A. He kept the public ledgers of the office

Q. By what authority or power could in which all my public transactions have been Mr. Wilson issue such 40,0001,?. 4. I left regularly entered.-Q. Are those ledgers in him in possession of drafts upon the Bank of existence? A. They are, and in the Navy England, signed by myself as attorney to the Pay Office.--Q: Was the sum of 40,000 1. treasurer. -Q. Were those drafts filled up alluded to by you as having been paid by Mr. by yourself for certain sums, or your signa- Wilson for services niot naval, in the year ture left to blanks in Mr. Wilson's posses 1706, the only sum paid under the same cirsion ? A. My signature was affixed to blanks cumstances of which you have any know's left in Mr. Wilson's possession, and which I ledge? A. It was, as tir as I recollect.found necessary to carry on tire business of Q. Did you never pay any sun or slims yourthe Pay Office, to prevent the accident, in self by draft or notes, or payment of any decase of

my illness or ocasional abze!ce, of scription, into the hands of Lord Ilelville, or the cashiers making unexpected or sudden any person authorized by lim, or on 'his acdemands for the public service.

-Q. Were

conuit, of public money issued for naval setthe blanks for the names as well as the sums vices, for purposes not naval? .A. I have left? A. They were. -Q. Had you com already explained my difficulty to the Communications with Mr. Wilson during your missioners of Naval Enquiry, of discriminaabsence, on the subject of the accounts of the ting between my public and prisate monies; Pay Office? A. I had. -Q. Are those and I have already declared to you, that I did communications preserved ? A. They are mot kroz the application which Lord Mlel.. not, as far as I know -Q. What is be ?!?!?.Y

hare made of actrances which I may come of them? A. Having closed the whole have ocasionally made to his lordship. of this business in question, I did not think Q. (Repeated.) 1. I presume I have. it at all necessary to preserve any part of the Q. At what time ard to wbrzi amount ? A. documents relating to it. Q. What did | My recollection des not enable me to anyou do with them? Á.I looked upon them swer that question. Q. Were any entries papers of no consequence; and they must made by yoll, or any person authorised ty have been destroyed with other papers, you, in any books or ledgers, or any memowhich I may also have louked upen di Pa randun kept of any description, of such paypers of ho consequence to be preserved.- ciert? Å. I kept regulir counts of all Q. Are you sure they are not now in crist my money transactions with Lord Melville, eftce ? A. I am positively certain; and that but having closed and settled the whole of they never consisted, as far as I know, of them, and a mutual release having passed bemore than leiters which Mr. Wilson had tween us, I have not thought it necessary to wsitten to me on the subject during my ab preserve any documents respecting my transrence. L-Q. When did you destroy them? actions with his lordship.-- N. Are those A: E. tainot recollest, but certainly more documents in existence? A. They are not, than one or two

ars ago; and I fancy in as für as I know---Q. When were they

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