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am in the habit of using? To ima- / gregate meetings, and afterwards gine that the long-fostered prejudices copied into the public papers of that of bigotted protestants against the country, not an effort is observable principles and dangers of what is to combat prejudice or subdue false. termed popery, will be removed by hood. And do the catholics of Irea studied silence on the part of the land think that an occasional display catholic body, is to betray a want of oratory, or the adoption of public of common sense in those who can resolutions, will add much weight in entertain such an idea ; for this line | the balance against the exuberant of conduct is better calculated to productions of the English protestantstrengthen their terrors and rivet press, to delude the people as to the their érroneous impressions, than to real state of our question, and the dispel their fears, and overcome / grievances which bear upon their their idle credulity. No, it is THE ill-fated country? If they do, most PRESS, and principally THE PRESS, y egregiously are they mistaken.-Not through which we must expect to one reader in five-hundred in this disperse the accumulating calumnies island ever see an Irish paper, and and fabrications invented by self- the 'speeches and resolves of Irish interest and ill-grounded religious aggregate meetings are but partially zeal to blacken and defile our faith known here, because the English and morals. And, let me tell the jourcalists find it more to their adleaders of the board, that to derive | vantage to forge foreign documents, any advantage from this all-powerful for party purposes, than to inform instrument, they must use the lan- | their readers of the local situation of guage of truth and sincerity, not the catholics of Ireland. It is there. that of sophistry and duplicity; the fore on English ground the contest former will confound and subdue should be maintained, and in this our adversaries, but the latter will metropolis must the battle be fought only afford them occaasions for cone with protestant intolerance and cafirming the credulous in their mis- tholic intrigue, if the Irish wish to taken notions, as we have wofully see their cause accelerated. Here witnessed in some late literary effu. the venom is dilated with unasions of biblical controyersy, be- bating industry, and here should the tween two celebrated lay theologues, antidote be as copiously and activethe one a professor of law, and the ly extended Under tliis conviction other of pharmacy, in the Gentle- I entered the field of literary warman's Magazine. That the press is fare, and notwithstanding I have the most powerful weapon we can had to contend with difficulties which wield, when conducted with honest have arisen more from the prejudices integrity, is evident from the pro of modern catholics than the threats gress which our cause has made, since of bigotted protestants, I am still we have had the privilege of using it, determined to continue my course, and I am only sorry that it has not relying on the discriminating justice been more generally employed, and of my friends for that support which with equal vigour to that of our is necessary to enable me to make enemies. This astonishing apathy head against our opponents, and, and indifference is the more lamenta hoping that my efforts will be seble, because it seems to prevail as conded by others far more competent much in Ireland as it does here. - to ensure victory. Following up With the exception of oral decla. my intentions I shall now proceed mations and common-place resolu- to the exposition of as bold a mastertions, delivered and passed at ag- piece in the science of misrepresen

tation and slander, as ever came antipathy more than political saga. from a hireling press.

city, urged this gentleman to stand

fortb as the redoubted hero of biblis DOMESTIC NOMINATION, IN REPLY cal zeal, to oppose the claims of five

TO J. L. Fostfr, Esq. millions of his countrymen. To Well and truly was it observed by enter into the whole of this printed our noble champion, lord Donough. speech is more than a single number more, as I have before noted, that of my Journal will allow me, I must our petitions were “assailed with therefore con loe myself chiefly to greater violence and acrimony in the insinuations, advanced against the one of the houses of parliament, and influence of the clergy, and the facts defended, perhaps, with less vigour which he has perverted to establish and effect than on any former occa- | his charges. Mr. Foster commences sion.” Foremost in the ranks of bi- his speech by candidly admitting the gotry stands John Leslie Foster, the unanimous detestation of the cathoorgan of bible societies, who have I lics of Ireland to veto regulations, accordiogly published his speech, and pointedly appeals to Mr. Gratadding thereto the forged bulls of tan, who had just before made an the present pope against the aforesaid offer of securities on any terms, whesocieties, with explanatory notes. ther he did not know, from letters, The title of the book is as follows: addressed to him, that such was the -"A Report of the Speech of John universal feeling of his constituents. “ Leslie Foster, Esq. in the House He then proceeds to the offer made $6 of Commons, on a motion made by of obtaining domestic nomination, " the Right Hon. Henry Grattan, which he considers a delusive propo"for the House to resolve itselfinto a sal, because to him it, appears that a " Committee on the Petition of the more complete system of domestic • Roman Catholics of Ireland, on appointment to vacant catholic bi. 6 Friday, May 9th, 1817. London: shopricks than that which now ex. “ printed for J, Hatchard, booksel.ists cannot be proposed "You 6 ler to the Queen, No. 190, Picca- may vary its form,” he says, “but “ dilly.”-Pp.72 From the sentimore domestic you cannot make it.” meats çonlained in this pamphlet, This admission of Mr. Foster must the main objections which Mr. Fos. be considered as a complete refutang ter appears to entertain agaiost the tion of the senseless cry of “foreign prayer of the petitioners are, the influence; for if the nomination is supposed intolerance of the tenets now, and long has been, completely of the catholic church, and the dao-domestic, the objection to our claims gers which may arise from the vast on the danger of a foreign ascendspiritual influence and authority ancy must have been chimerical, and which the catholic clergy exercise used merely for a cloak to cover over their flocks. To counterbg. other designs, which I believe to be lance these alarming consequences, the real state of the case. the learned senator recommends the " The praposition, then, of domestic pensioning of the clergy out of the uomination, (says the speech) is distinctly public purse, and placing them under

this--that the protestants and catholics the control of the crown, Very

having each much to require and much lo

give op, the protestants are to cede every wise propositions from a protestant thing that reinaios, and the catholics are te legislator! There are other minor make the single concession of remaining reasons stated, but these form the

exactly as they are; or, in other words,

that, in consideration of our former repeal principal grounds of his opposition,

15. opposition, of the whole penal code, and of their adwhich clearly shew that religious / mission to alb civil privileges, for which vo

one concession was obtained; and, in fur proofs in the late revolutionary conther consideration of their being admitted l test of their attachment to monarchal to a complete participation of political power, they are ready to acquiesce in this principles, and their veneration for single but important regulation of their

the British constitution, by a profuse ecclesiastical discipline, that for the time ta sacrifice of blood, and a joint and come their bishops shall be appointed in

cheerful contribution of property in the same manner as they have been torsome time past. - Is such a proposal Gelusive, or

its support, they now demand a res is it not ?"

stitution of their political rights, of In reply to this question I observe, | which their ancestors were disseized, that were the proposition as correct by means, as I have before observed, ly stated as it is said to be distinctly which ought to make the exclusive so, it might be considered as a de possessors of those rights blush for lusion ; but the speech-maker un the infamy and iniquity of their fortunately could see only one forefathers. This claim for a resto, side of the question, which occa, ration of civil privileges, instead of sioned a little obscurity in his dis being received with candour and jus. tinct delineation of the proposition. I tice, is met by one party with bois Now, the real state of the question terous and inflammatory outeries is this --At the commencement of against the dangers of popery, and the reformation so called, in conse- by another with a proposal to the quence of the attachmeut of the peo-petitioners of resigning the mapageple to the ancient faith, and the zeatment of their religious concerns into and ardour of several of the catholic the hands of those who hate their clergy to disseminate it, in opposi-doctrines, by way of security from tion to the new-fangled doetrines any intluence which the head of then established by parliamentary | their church is supposed to possess enactments, several penal laws were over them to the danger of the estapassed against the religion of catho blishments. The claimants, who lics, who were termed papists, and it were perfectly aware that the apprebecame treason and felony to preach hension of their opponents as to paor practice that faith. In the course pal infuence was a mere bugbear, of time, sectarianism began to spread, were nevertheless willing to meet and the sovereigns who were appoint- their fears, as far as the safety of ed head of the established church, their religion would permit them, preserring the services of catholics for it could not be supposed that to those of the puritan dissenters they would ever consent that the from the establishment, à 6 No- guardians of their faith should be popery" faction was thereby created, selected by men who annually swear which obtaining an ascendency in it is both superstitious and idolathe seoate, under circumstances the trous. They therefore proposed, in mostdisgraceful ever recorded ofany the event of justice being done to country calling itself civilized, at them in the restoration of their once deprived the catholics of their civil rights, that an agreement should civil rights, without any substantial be entered into by the head of the proof of delinquency on their side. I church and their own immediate in this state they remained until the prelates, that the former should bind reign of his present majesty, under himself to nominate none to vacant whose mild and gracious sway dioceses who had not been canonithey have been released from the cally chosen by the resident clergy, most galliag of the religious penal. | who, on their part, were to be sworn ties, but are still subject to the po- to elect no capdidate but such as litical disabilities. Having given / were of sound loyalty and unimpeachable conduct. At present the Rome itself. I anı far from blaming them pope can nominate against the will for so doing; ---in their place, I should act,

no doubt, in the same manner. It is the of the clergy ; in the event of a con- |

nature of every great corporation to infuse cordat, he would be bound by its a strong zeal into its individual members, stipulations. The system therefore for the advancement of its interest and preferred would be more complete,

power; and certainly of no other corpora

tion that the world has ever seen, may and, of course, more domestic; how

thisso truly be ob-erved, as of the great then can it be deemed a delusion, ecclesiastical body of the church of Rome. when it would secure, by a solemn | In Ireland the protestant sees a number of treaty, that which is now acted upon

the Roman catholic bishops meeting abou

ally at Maynooth, primarily for the reguo by courtesy ? Having thus explain

lation of the seminary; but he well under·ed Mr. Foster's distinct representa- stands that they do not separate without tion of domestic nomination, I shall accomplishing the second but more impornow proceed to examine the dangers

tant object of taking coinmon order for the | concerns of their church: due deference

or which he asserts it is toʻmeet; but, being paid to the recommendations of a first of all, it is proper to lay before committee 'so conveniently assembled.the reader the speech-maker's exa | Upon more urgent occasions he sees the mination of the nature of these dan- |

whole body of their bishops meeting in

| synods convoked by their own au hority, gers in his own words.

and pronulgating whatever decrees upon “Let me suppose us to act (says the

whatever subjects they think proper, whespeech) on such an arrangement, and let us

ther it be a declaration of their own resodiscover, if we can, in what way we shall be

lution to submit to martyrdom rather than secured. But first, it is necessary to exa

comply with the enactments of a law at mine the nature of the danger which it is to the time in progress through the British meet. The protestant sees with apprchen sepate; or whether they take a wider sion four millions of our people still mainly range, and discuss the merits of the Gallidependent for their habits and opinions,

can concordat, censuring its principles, but and more particularly for their impressions

justifying their adoption as a necessary of the religion and government of England,

compliance with the dreadful necessity of on a great body of ecclesiastics, whom the

the times. fatal and mistaken policy of our ancestors

“ Sir, the protestant sees in this imperihad treated in such a manner, that it was um in imperio, an anomaly which I shall not in human nature to expect that those

presently endeavour to demonstrate is not ecclesiastics should make their fucks very

permitted to exist in any other country, much attached to the government from protestant or catholic. And when he which that treatment proceeded. The pro

looks around amongst our population for testant sees that body of ecclesiastics, who,

that extended charity and peace, that retill lately, were under absolute proscrip

spect for British law, that attachineot 10 tion, still an insulated and an unacknow

British connection, which forty years of Jedyed. but most formidable power within conciliation and concession, the repeal of the country, totally unconnected with the

the peoal code, the communication of civil state, studiously independent of it, unat.

| privilege, and the grant of pecuniary eatached to it by any of the ordinary motives

dowment for education might naturally be of human conduct, but acting all the wbile

expected, ere this time, to have produced ; on the education, the morals, the habits, the

be books in vain, and sees nothing but what opinions, and conduct of the greater part of

tends to increase his dissatisfaction and our population, more extensively than the

fears. legislature and executive powers united;

“ He sees our people in too many disit is their own boast that they can do so,

tricts acting in avowed defiance of the law, and I am forced to acknowledge the melan subverting the very foundations of society ; choly truth. The protestant' sees further and he sees them, when finally overtaken this great ecclesiastical community, so

by justice, beroically ready to meet their powerful in cominand, itself submitted with fate, firmly convinced that they are dying unlimited devotion to the orders of a com

in a good cause ; while their associates, paratively small portion of their own body,

instead of regarding their punishment as a -I mean their bishops ; and these again

sacrifice to the offended laws, view it acting with an unanimity and steadiness in

rather in the light of the ordinary operaasserting their authority, and extending tions of a campaigo; and while their supe. the conmon interest of their order, notina riors are hoping that the examples of so ferior to any thing in the example of papal mapy executions may strike a salutary terá

ror into the guilty, they are no less con- | wields. Sir, such an arrangement is not gratulating themselves that the cause has our SECURITY but our DANGER.” lost only so few of its supporters. “Let me pot be misunderstood as impu

This, reader, is Mr. Foster's de. ting to their clergy the origin of these evils. scription of domestic nomination, They are the fruits of a sad course of and the dangers which would attend events in Irish history, with which, through the legislative adoption of it. I the faults of our ancestors, the Roman catholic religion has been inseparably inter

have given it at full length to avoid woven. I wish to be understood to speak the charge of quoting unfairly, and of the errors of the present race of our pea to exhibit a complete view of the saptry, as rather being a continuation of picture which the hand of intolerthe habits of their fathers, generated by the misgovernment and calamities of the times,

ance has drawn, and decorated with and tremendously enhanced by the bad | the tints of prejudice. For who is qualities of the education which they re so blind as not to perceive that all ceive;-a supply of moral poison, for the

the apprehensions, all the terrors, all particulars of which I need only to refer to } the reports of the commissioners of educa

the jealousies of this speech-maker, tion. A new system, both of books and is grounded on the zeal and ardour instruction has at length been introduc of the catholic clergy, and the coned, and let us hope that the Romau catho.

sequent increase of that religion, in lic clergy will be amongst the foremost to assist its operation. Upon the spirit which

the event of domestic nomination bethey manifest, its success must greatly de-ing considered a sufficient security pend. The protestant sees further in too from foreign influence, and a sense of many districts, an increasing proscription

justice inducing the nation to conof himself and of his creed; he sees the protestant tradesman systematically and si sent to the complete toleration of its multaneously deserted by bis catholic cus-catholic subjects. And is there any tomers-he sees the protestant farmer me.

one catholic, then, so lost to reason naced in his habitation, and way-laid in his journies, until he seeks his peace in

and duty, as to be willing to surrenemigration, or buys it by his conversion. der the management of his religion He sees a wide spreading system of inter-into the hands of those who hold it marriage of protestants and catholics above in such dread and abhorrence? Is all things encouraged by their priesthood,

there any one so stupid, so besotted, ending very generally in the conversion of the husband or wife, and securing alipost so eager after temporal honours, as universally the catholicism of the children. to leave the choice of his spiritual He sees, every where, from these concur

guides to men of such avowed hosrent circumstances, the diminution of protestant numbers, the increasing insecurity of

| tility as Mr. Foster and Co. ? But protestant property, the steady career, the

let us look into the fearful dangers unbending intolerance of catholic aggran- | pourtrayed in such glowing colours, dizement. He looks for some practical |

and see how far they are consafeguard and protection for himself, when it shall be endowed, (if it shall be endow

sonant with a faithful and candid ed) with the new strength and powers representation of the case. The first which it seeks; and he is told, to be of danger described by the learned oragood cheer, that this all-saving security is

tor, is the appreñension of the pronow provided, that the influencing and di- 1 recting spirit, which he considers as pro- testant at seeing so large a number pelling forward all that he apprehends, is of the people still mainly depend. to continue exactly as it stands, as unconsent for their habits and opinions, trolled, as unattached, as insulated, and as

and especially their impressions of aliepated as ever. SUCH, sir, IS DOMESTIC NOMINA-1

the religion and government of EngTION :- A mere continuation of this moral land, on a body of ecclesiastics, who and religious imperium in imperio, exactly 1 had been so treated by his ancestors, as it stands. No, not exactly; we are, to

| that it was not in human nature to make this alteration in its relations to the slate; we are to add energy and power to

expect that those ecclesiastics would the mass upon which it acts, and to sharpen make their flocks much in love with and strengthen the weapons which it the government fra

| the government from which this.

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