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Executive Powers of Removal.

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erery appearance of a determination to land troops was ject of military affairs, he concludes as follows: 'I have exhibited. On this occasion, Major Clark, after supplying only to add, that the Government highly applauds your the troops with ammunition, &c., shouldered a musket, patriotic exertions.' and volunteered as a private in Captain Morris's company, I ask, if examples of such sacrifices were numerous to oppose the landing of the British troops. The brig, during the late war? Do they constitute no claim to pubhowever, hauled off. In obedience to an order of the lic gratitude with those who rule this nation? And the Governor, dated 25th of August, 1812, Major Clark fur- only way left for the Senate to show their disapprobation nished a detachment from his brigade to join the army of the removal, is to do what has been often done heretoordered to Black Rock, under General Tanebill. In pur. fore—to call on the President for his reasons of action. He suance of an order from the Governor, dated September may have been deceived. If so, it will be satisfactory to 5th, 1812, a battalion of militia was organized under general the Senate to know it, and but justice to himself to make orders of the 12th May, 1812, to form part of the army it known. He will not withhold the information. assembling under General Harrison, in the State of Ohio, It may, however, be said, that the President was not for the defence of the Western frontier. Early in 1813, informed of the extent of Mr. Clark's services to the Government commenced building vessels of war at the country, or of his character as a citizen in his native State. Erie harbor, to contend with the British for mastery on I am instructed to say that he did know it; and with the lake Erie, which work progressed with unexampled ra- information before him, it would have been creditable to pidity. About the middle of July the vessels were nearly the President to have suffered him to remain where he completed, and Commodore Perry considered the station found him, at least until he could have had an opportuin imminent danger of an attack from the British with the nity of consulting his constitutional advisers. view of destroying our vessels in their unfinished state, i have now shown the way the late Treasurer served his from the fact that the British Aeet daily made its appear-country during the last war. I have shown you the estiance off the barbor. Under this perilous circumstance, mation in which he was held by his fellow-citizens; the Commodore Perry made a pressing appeal to Major Gene- various offices he has held to their entire satisfaction. I ral Mead to furnish militia immediately for the protection have shown how and when he was transferred to this place, of the vessels and other public property then at Erie, to and appointed Treasurer; the unanimity in the Senate in

vast amount. General Mead was so well aware of confirming the appointment. I now inquire, was there the importance to the nation of having so important a ever a President in the United States, previous to the prestation guarded against danger from the enemy, that he sent, with the knowledge of all these facts before him, ordered Major Clark to march his whole brigade forth- who would have exercised suclı high-handed measures? I with to the town of Erie. With such promptness was this think I am warranted in saying there was not, and I hope order executed by Major Clark, that, in forty-eight hours such examples hereafter may be rare. after receiving it, one thousand militia had arrived at The whole appointing power is conferred upon the Erie, and, on the fifth day, twenty-eight hundred organized President and Senate jointly. Whenever the Executive militia were tendered by Major Clark to the commanding shows a disposition to abuse the power vested in him by General, the greater portion of them having marched the constitution, by an unlimited exercise of those confrom forty to ninety miles. These troops were furnished structive powers, never intended to be conferred by the with subsistence by him on their march; and while they instrument, the Senate of the United States, who possess remained at Erie, large detachments of them were inces- co-equal and co-ordinate power, o'ght immediately to santly engaged in assisting to get the feet over the bar, check such disposition, and restore the instiument to its procuring ballast, &c. And when the feet was ready for original intention. If the President is permitted, during service, as many of these troops as could be taken on the recess of the Senate, to go on, and remodel the Goboard volunteered with Commodore Perry on his first ex. vernment, by turning out and substituting whomsoever he cursion on the lake in search of the enemy. Late in De- pleases, it at once reduces the Senate of the United States cember, 1813, the British crossed over to the American into a mere registering body, divested of all Executive in. side, and burnt the town of Buffalo. Captain Elliott, who fluence or Executive control; and this, too, not only withthen commanded the Erie station, where all our vessels out positive grant, but in plain contradiction to the posiand naval stores lay, considering the station to be altoge tive espressions of the constitution. ther unprotected by land forces, and nothing to impede Again, I am borne out in my opinion, when I say that the march of the British from Buffalo to Erie, deemed it the power exercised by the President to remove from ofnecessary, for the safety of the station, to call on General fice, during the recess of the Senate, without cause, is ar. Mead for a military force for its defence. To constitute bitrary and unjust; I am borne out in that opinion by a such defence, General Mead issued his orders to Major sentiment that dropped from one of the gentlemen from Clark, on the 1st of January, 1814, commanding him to Tennessee, in the debate on another subject. The genmarch his whole brigade immediately to the Erie station, tleman said, (I took down his words,) " that all men who which orders, considering the inclemency of the season, exercise office for party purposes, ought to be dismissed were executed with extraordinary promptitude and des- from office; but, for the exercise of the rights of suffrage, patch. The timespent by Major Clark in executing these they ought not to be dismissed.” I will now appeal to my numerous orders, holding courts martial for the trial of colleague; he has had the best opportunity of knowing, delinquents, and settling with Government, necessarily and I am sure he will state nothing but facts. Did Mr. occupied nearly three years, to the total neglect of all Clark, previous to the last Presidential election, exercise private concerns. And while engaged in performing those the influence which the office he held, that of Treasurer services, numerous and arduous as they were, Major of the State of Pennsylvania, gave him, to party or poliClark received the pay of a major, which compensation, cal purposes? I feel confident my colleague will say lie to say nothing of his personal services and those of a horse, did not. That he expressed his opinion freely in favor of was not equal to his actual expenditures.

Mr. Adams, I have no doubt; but at the time of the elec“In Governor Snyder's order of the 5th September, tion he did not vote on either side of the question. It is 1812, to Major Clark, he expresses liis high sense of the well known he then resided in this District, and was not valor of these patriotic citizens, who voluntarily flocked entitled to a vote. to the standard of their country, on the Northwestern fron I have been somewhat surprised at what we have wittiers of the State, to arrest the progress of an invading nessed in this body, when the nominations made by the foe. In a letter from the Secretary of the Commonwealth, President have been brought up for confirmation, (I allude of the 7th September, 1812, to Major Clark, on the sub- particularly to those of district attorneys.) A member

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has not risen upon this floor, however pleased they may very President of that peace society, the confirmation of have been with the nominee in other respects, but what which took place not more than ten days since, in this has admitted them to be inferior in point of capacity to body. It may be asked, why was not this information disthose they have succeeded. And is this no abuse of pow- closed at the time? To this 1 answer, that neither my er in the Executive, to remove good officers, and supply colleague nor myself knew it to be the same man when their places with others less qualified? Instead of im- the nomination was before us, although I had heard of proving the system of your Government, and the moral bis removal to the West. Yet it never occurred to me as and intellectual condition of your citizens, as the Presi- being the same person, nor would I yet have known it, dent ought to endeavor to do, we find a letting down in bad I not received the information, a few days since, from every department. Is there no way to put an end to these a member of the other House. It is, however, but candor abuses? There is. Let the Senate pass the resolution to state, that had I known the nominee to be the same pernow before you, and, my word for it, the President will be son, I should have disclosed the peace society business with more careful in making his selections for the future. There reluctance. His connexions in Pennsylvania, so far as I is one other subject I would notice. I would not recur to am acquainted with them, are liighly respectable, and he it, had not so much been said, at different times, by gentle. himselt possesses many estimable and good qualities. I men in the opposition, about the peace societies that ex. have mentioned this circumstance as a set off to the atisted throughout the Union during the last war. We, attempts that have been made to make the world believe that period, had a peace society in Pennsylvania; which that the members of these peace societies are now arrayed society did as much, wrote as much, and arrayed them- in opposition to the administration, when the contrary is the selves as much in oprosition to the war and the measures I fear men are now more regarded for their devotion pursued by the then administration as any other similar to those in power, than devotion to their country. I have society. And what do we now find to be the fact? Searce nothing further to say, but to express a hope that the ly had half a year rolled round from the time of Clark's Senate will pass the resolution now under consideration. removal, until the President bestowed an oflice on the

case.

DEBATES IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Mr.

Monday, Dec. 7, 1829.

to the individual who fills it, and of increased importance At 12 o'clock, precisely, the House was called to order to the public. by MATTHEW Sr. Clan Clarke, Esq. Clerk to the last

How far it will be in my power to meet the especta. Congress.

tions of the House, by an able and enlightened discharge The roll of members having been called over by States, of the duties of this high station, it is not for me to say. it appeared that there were present one hundred and Distrustful of my own abilities, I can promise but little ninety-four Representatives, and three Delegates from else than zcal and fidelity. I shall shrink from the perTerritories.

formance of no duty, however painful; shun no responsiA quorum of the House being presenta

bility, however severe; my time and talents shall be de: The House proceeded to bullot for a Speaker.

voted to your service; and, in pursuing the manly and CONDICT, of New Jersey, Mr. RIPLEY, of Mainc, and steady course which duty directs, I shall, at least, be Mr. POLK, of Tennessee, being appointed Tellers, an- cheered and sustained by a consciousness of the purposes, nounced, after counting tie ballots, that ANDREW STE- and a confidence in the principles, which I shall bring VENSON had received one hundred and fifty-nine votes; with me into this arduous service. On your part, gentlewhich, being a majority of the whole number,

men, I shall expect and need your kind and cordial coANDREW STEVENSON, of Virginia, wiis declared operation, and that general confidence, without which all to be duly elected Speaker of the House.

the efforts of authority would be nugatory; and I entreat TIE SPEAKER'S ADDRESS.

you to afford me that aid and support in maintaining the

established rules and orders of the Ilouse, so necessary to Being conducted to the chair, the SPEAKER elect ad- the character and dignity of its deliberations, and the desdressed the House in the following terms:

patch of the business of the nation. GENTLEMEN: I receive this renewed and distinguished In assembling again to consider the condition of our beproof of the continued confidence and approbation of my loved country, I seize the occasion to offer you my corcountry, with feelings of deep sensibility and unaffected dial congratulations upon its prosperity and happiness, gratitude; and since it is your pleasure that I should again and the still more exalted destinies that await it. Whilst preside over your deliberations, I accept the trust, with our relations with foreign Powers are distinguished by alan earnest hope that the choice of the House may not liances and good will, which serve but to render our prove injurious to its interests, or detrimental to its honor. friendship more valuable to cach, and more courted by

of the importance and responsibility of this high office, all, our situation at home, under the influence of virtuous it is unnecessary to speak. It has been justly regarded, and patriotic councils, is peaceful, united, and happy; both in relation to its elevation, and the nature and extent How long these blessings are to be enjoyed by us, and of its duties, as one of the most delicate and responsible secured to our children, must depend upon the virtue and trusts under the Government. Indeed, the great increase intelligence of the people; the preservation of our happy of legislative business, both of a public and private nature, Union; and the virtuous, liberal, and enlightened adminis. (occupying, as it does, so large a portion of the year,) |tration of our free institutions. the number of this House, and the habit of animated, pro That our confederated republic can only exist by the tracted, and frequent debate, have, of late, tended Very ties of common interest and brotherly attachment, by mu. much to render the duties of the Chair peculiarly arduous tual forbearance and moderation, (collectively and indivi

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dually,) and by cherishing a devotion to liberty and union, of clerk took place, the Speaker answered that he premust be apparent to every candid mind; and, as our fa- sumed that he would. thers united their counsels and their arms, poured out Mr. CAMBRELENG, of New York, suggested the

their blood and treasure, in support of their common postponement of the election to to-morrow instead of · rights, and by the exertions of all succeeded in defending Thursday,

the liberties of each, so must we, if we intend to continue Mr. JOHNSON proposed Wednesday, as the medium a free, united, and happy people, profit by their counsels, between to-morrow and Thursday. The object of his moand emulate their illustrious example.

tion for postponement, and the only object of it, was to How much will depend upon the conduct and delibera. obtain time to make up his mind upon information which tions of the national legislature, and especially of this he might receive as to the relative merits of the several House, it is not needful that I should admonish you. I candidates for this office. To-morrow the message of the need not, I am sure, remind you, gentlemen, that we are President might be expected to be received, and the other here the guardians and Representatives of our entire coun- officers of the House also were to be elected; so that the try, and not the advocates of local and partial interests: election of clerk could not well be made until Wednesthat national legislation, to be permanently useful, must day, to which day, therefore, he now moved to postpone be just, liberal, enlightened, and impartial: that ours is the consideration of Mr. RAMSAY'S motion. the high duty of protecting all, and not a part--of main Mr. BURGES, of Rhode Island, said that if the old taining inviolably the public faith--of elevating the pub-clerk could continue to act as clerk for several days, withlic credit and resources of the nation--of expending the out an election, why not for the whole session? When public treasure with the same care and economy that we was his service to end? would our own--of limiting ourselves within the pale of The SPEAKER said that that was a matter for the disour constitutional powers, and regulating our measures cretion of the House. by the great principles contained in that sacred charter, Mr. BURGES said that the mere necessity of the case ard cherishing in our hearts the sentiment that the union made it proper that the clerk to the last House should act of the States cannot be too highly valued, or too watch- in organizing the present. But, when the House bad fully cherisheel.

gone so far as to choose a Speaker, it appeared to him These are some of the great landmarks which suggest that the necessity was over, and that the House would be themselves to my mind, as proper to guide us in our le- without a clerk, unless one should be immediately chosen. gislative career. By these means, gentlemen, we shall Without a clerk thus chosen, he did not see how the not only render ourselves worthy of the high trust con- House was to make any record of its transactions. fided to us, but we shall endear to our people the prin Mr. ALSTON, of North Carolina, thought that no difciples of their constitution and free institutions, and pro-ficulty could arise from a postponement of the consideramote a sentiment of union and action, auspicious to the tion of the resolution. He thought the resolution improsafety, glory, and happiness, of our beloved and common per in itself, and, when the gentleman from Kentucky country.

rose, he was about to have risen himself, and propose that The oath of office was then administered to the Speaker the House should proceed to an election by ballot. He by Mr. NEWTON, of Virginia, (the father of the House,) preferred that the whole question should lie upon the taand by the SPEAKER to the members, by States in suc- ble for the present, and that, whenever the House should cession.

proceed to the election of a clerk, it should be by ballot. This ceremony being ended

As to the old clerk continuing to act, (Mr. A. said] it bad Mr. RAMSAY, of Pennsylvania, submitted the follow. been the universal practice that the old clerk should coning resolution:

tinue to act until another should be appointed. Resolved, That Matthew St. Clair Clarke, Clerk to the Mr. RAMSAY expressed his willingness, if it would late House of Representatives, be appointed Clerk to this meet the views of his friend, so to modify his resolution, House.

as to propose that the House should now go into an eleco Mr. JOHNSON, of Kentucky, said that lie was in- tion of a clerk. formed that there would possibly be several other indivi Mr. BUCHANAN, of Pennsylvania, said he trusted that duals who would be candidates for the office of clerk. such a course would be pursued as that the House should He therefore proposed to postpone the election to twelve at once go into an election by ballot. And perhaps his o'clock on Thursday, to enable members to make up a colleague was wrong in now proposing a different course. judgment upon the information which they might in the It had been the practice, Mr. B. knew, where no opposimean time receive of the characters of the various candi- tion to the old clerk was intended, to re-appoint him by dates. This officer, he said, was the chief controlling resolution. The gentleman from Kentucky, however, executive officer of this body; his situation was one high-had stated that he believed that there were other candily confidential and responsible. It was due to the mem- dates for the office. Mr. B. said he did not know the fact: bers, and to the candidates, that a better opportunity but, if there were, the proper course was, as usual in should be afforded for selection from amongst the latter, such case, to proceed to ballot for a clerk. He should, than he at least had enjoyed. He had himself intended himself, vote to lay the resolution on the table, and then to move that on Thursday next, at twelve o'clock, the to proceed to an election by ballot. House would proceed to the clection of a clerk; and with Nr. RAMSAY then withdrew his resolution in favor of this view lie moved to postpone until Thursday next the Mr. Clarke, and moved, in lieu thereof, that the House do consideration of the resolution now under consideration. I now proceed to the election of a clerk.

Mr. RAMSAY asked what was the House in the mean Mr. JOHNSON, of Kentucky, moved to amend this time to do for a clerk? Could the House proceed in its last motion, so as to go into an election on Wednesday business without that officer? In offering the resolution, next at twelve o'clock, instead of this day. [Mr. R. said) he had only followed the example, set by On this question the House divided-ayes 54, the noes former Congresses, of electing the clerk immediately af- being a large majority. ter the choice of Speaker. And he asked that the ques The motion to proceed directly to a balloting was then tion of postponement should be taken by yeas and nays. agreed to. Mr. RAMSAY then nominated Mr. Clarke,

The yeas and nays were accordingly ordered upon the and Mr. JOHNSON nominated Virgil Maxcy, of Maryland. question.

The votes having been collected and counted by Mr. In reply to a question put to the Chair, whether the RAMSAY, Mr. JOHNSON, and Mr. BUCHANAN, it aplate clerk would be considered in service until an election peared that the number of votes given in for Mr. Clarke

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President's Message.

(Dec. 8, 9, 10, 1829.

was one hundred and thirty-five; which, being a majority table, to give the Speaker a better opportunity of becomof the whole number, MATTHEW St. Clair CLARKE was ing acquainted with the new members, &c. elected Clerk of the House of Representatives, and was Mr. CAMBRELENG suggested to Mr. Coxdict the forthwith sworn into office.

expediency of withdrawing his motion for the present, On motion of Mr. MILLER, of Pennsylvania, it was and renewing it to-morrow or another day. resolved, nem. con. that Join Oswald Duxy be appointed Mr. CONDICT said, the practice heretofore had been Sergeant-at-Arms to the House.

to adopt a similar order before the message was considered; On motion of Mr. MILLER, the House then proceeded and, as the committees were not announced until the readto the election of a doorkeeper. The late venerable ing of the Journal on the day following the adoption of (though now infirm) doorkeeper, Capt. BENJAMIN BURCH, the order, a whole day was thus given to the Speaker for was nominated, in a very appropriate manner, by Mr. the selection of the committees. TUCKER, of South Carolina. Several other persons The SPEAKER said, that it had been the practice, at were nominated by different members. The ballots hav- the opening of a new Congress, to allow the Speaker ing been counted by tellers named by the Speaker, Mr. three or four days for the selection of the committees. TUCKER reported that Mr. Burch had received one Mr. BUCHANAN said, he should not have moved to hundred and thirty-six votes, (a large majority of the whole postpone the motion for now appointing them, if he had number,) and was consequently chosen.

not known that to be the fact. On motion, it was then resolverl, nem. con. that OVERTON Mr. MALLARY said, that, should the ordet be now Cann be appointed Assistant Doorkeeper to this House. made, it would, he presumed, not necessarily follow that

The usual message having been interchanged with the the committees should be announced to-morrow. Senate, it was resolved that a committee be appointed on The SPEAKER said, that, if the order was now made, the part of this House, to join such committee as have the committees must be announced to-morrow. been, or may be, appointed on the part of the Senate, to Mr. BUCHANAN said, if the pendirig motion was laid wait upon the President of the United States, and inforın upon the table until to-morrow, and should then be adopt. hin that quorums of the two Houses have assembled, and ed, the House might then, following precedent, adjourn that Congress are ready to receive any communications he over to Monday, and thus afford the Speaker the requi. may be pleased to make.

site time of three or four days for a selection of the comA motion having been made for the usual order for fur- mittees. nishing members with newspapers-

Mr. CONDICT said he had no objection to this course. Mr. WICKLIFFE, of Kentucky, objected to it. He said, The motion of Mr. CONDICT was then ordered to lie that the subject of furnishing, at the public expense, pa- upon the table. pers for the private convenience of the members of this House, was referred to a committee last session, and that

THURSDAY, Dec. 10, 1829. that committee bad, in its report, recommended a discontinuance of the practice. His mind, he said, had under: for the appointment of the standing committees; which

Mr. CONDICT called up his motion, made yesterday, gone no change on this subject. He was of opinion that the application of the public means to this object was not

was agreed to by the House. justifiable. But, in order to test the question, he moved

PRESIDENT'S MESSAGE. to lay the resolution on the table.

The House then went into Committee of the whole on This motion was negatived; and the resolution for con- the state of the Union; when the several branches of the tinuing the usage was agreed to without a division. President's message were referred to the different stand

ing and select committees.

The several resolutions for the reference of the message TUESDAY, Dec. 8, 1829.

were offered by Mr. POLK. On one of them, the fourth, Mr. DRAYTON, from the committee appointed on the which was in the following words: part of this House, to join the committee appointed on the Resolved, That so much of the said message as relates part of the Senate, to wait on the President of the United to the modification of the existing tariff of duties on States, &c. reported that the committee had waited on the goods imported into the United States, be referred to the President accordingly, and that the President answered Committee on Manufactures”that he would make a communication to Congress this day. A debate occurred.

The message of the President of the United States was soon after received, by the hands of A. J. Doxelson, Esq. rangement of thie business as judicious; and the gentleman

Mr. J. W. TAYLOR said, he considered the general arhis Private Secretary, and read. (See Appendix.] Whereupon, ten thousand copies thereof were ordered sent the various points in the most clear and perspicuous

from Tennessee had so prepared his resolutions, as to preto be printed for the use of this House.

He wished to'have, however, some limitations

in this resolution which refers to the modification of the WEDNESDAY, Dec. 9, 1829.

tarift. If the gentleman from Tennessee would refer to

the President's message, he would find that it contains sug. Mr. CONDICT, of New Jersey, observing that it seemed gestions looking to proposed modifications of the tariff proper, before proceeding to distribute among commit- One modification is to be found in the ninth page, and betees the several subjects of the President's message, that gins thus: “The general rule to be applied in graduating the standing commitees of the House should be appointed, the duties upon articles of foreign growth or manufacture

, therefore moved the following order:

is that which will place our own on a fair competition with Ordered, That the standing committees be now ap those of other countries,” &c. presenting the great prin pointed, pursuant to the rules and orders of the House" ciple in regard to the protection of American manufac

Mr. BUCHANAN said that there was, he believed, an tures. The other class, referred tu in the 10th page, unusual number of new members in the present House of commences thus: “Looking forward to the period, not Representatives; and it was desirable, certainly, that the far distant, when a sinking fund will no longer be rej Speaker, who was to appoint these committees, should quired,” and going on to state, that, in reference to tea and bave time and opportunity for inquiry before be appointed coffee, a reduction of the existing duties “ will be felt us them. It was not probable, he said, that any legislative a common benefit.” business would be done in the course of the present week, His object was to move an amendment to this resoluand for that reason he moved that the motion lie upon the tion, which would have the effect of referring that part

manner.

Dec. 10, 1829.]

President's Message.

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which relates to such modification as looks to the protec-cussed. What he proposed was, to give a respectful retion of our own manufactures, to the Committee on Manu- ference to the appropriate committees of all the matters factures, while it refers so much as pertains to the modifi- which the Chief Magistrate had submitted to the considecation contemplated by the reduction of the duties on tea ration of the House. It was not now for him to oppose, and coffee, which is exclusively a revenue arrangement, to vindicate, or approve of those matters. That was a to the Committee of Ways and Means. Only so far as the subject for discussion hereafter, and “sufficient for the duties are regulated with a view to the protection of our day is the evil thereof." Let that matter, therefore, rest. mannfactures is it properly an object of reference to the He wished the subject to go to that committee, where it Committee on Manufactures. He would therefore move would receive the fullest consideration. When he was to amend the resolution by inserting, after the words up before, he read a paragraph from the message, which, " United States," the words “ with a view to the protec. after stating that the general rule was to “place onr own tion of manufactures."

[manufactures) in fair competition with those of other counThe question being on the amendment,

tries,” went on to state that the inducements to advance Mr. POLK said, that, as the resolution had been adopted even a step beyond this point are controlling in regard to in committee, it was no longer under his control. It was those articles which are of primary necessity in time of suggested, however, by a gentleman near him, that the war.” The President had thus expressed his opinion on amendment, with a modification, might be proper. The this point in explicit terms. If there be a single article modification which he suggested was, to add the words manufactured in the United States, which is of primary *except that pait which refers to the reduction of the du-importance in time of war, the President, in regard to that ties on tea and coffee, which is referred to the Committee article, recommends a protecting duty. Here, then, apof Ways and Means.”

pears the propriety of considering what class of articles Mr. TAYLOR reminded the gentleman from Tennessee is here alluded to, and what are embraced in the principle, tllat he has already referred every thing relating to the and these are fit subjects of consideration for the Commitrevenue to the Committee of Ways and Means, and that tee on Manufactures. But, in regard to the whole subject, reference embraced the object of his present motion. it appears that if we take what is said in the last paraThis is a subject of revenue, and it is by no means neces- graph in the ninth page, we shall find there is a distinct sary to go into the particular specifications as to the duties recommendation to carry the principle further. That on tea, coffee, &c. That matter is of necessity before the paragraph reads thus: “The agricultural interest of our committee, unless it shall be particularly excluded. country is so essentially connected with every other, and

Mr. POLK stated that his only object was to render the so supérior in importance to them all, that it is scarcely nelanguage of the resolution more specific than it was before cessary to invite to it your particular attention. It is he offered this amendment. His object was to give to the principally as manufactures and commerce tend to inCommittee of Ways and Means all the duties which legiti- crease the value of agricultural productions, and to exmately belong to it, and to refer to it all those topics in the tend their application to the wants and comforts of society, message which are within its sphere. It was suggested to that they deserve the fostering care of the Government." him that there might arise a conflict between the Commit How are these to receive the fostering care of the Gofee of Ways and Means and the Committee on Manufac-vernment, unless by the protecting duties referred to in tures, as to which was in possession of the specific recom- the amendment he had offered, with a view to the considemendation contained in the message; and, in consequence ration of the committee? It was far from his intention at of that suggestion, he had proposed his modification. It this time to invite discussion. He had supposed that, as could do no harm; if it were productive of no other good, there were two classes of modifications, the une relating it would indicate the will of the House as to the commit to manufactures, and the other to revenue, it was proper, tee to which the subject should be referred. The Com- as the resolution of the gentleman from Tennessee would mittee of Ways and Means has all the subjects relating to carry the whole subject to the Committee on Manufacthe revenue before it; and the modification he had suggested tures, to limit the reference to those points which the would have the effect of making this reference more clear. gentleman, doubtless, intended to refer to that committee.

Mr. EVERETT suggested that either the original reso. To carry that into execution, and to divide the matter aclution of the gentleman from Tennessee, or the amend- cording to the arrangement in the message, he had made ment of the gentleman from New York, might produce his present motion. the effect; but the amendment now suggested by the

gen. Mr. DAVIS, of South Carolina, suggested an alteration tieman from Tennessee, following the amendment of the in the phraseology, so as to make it read, that so much gentleman from New York, would lead to the inference as relates to manufactures be referred to the Committee that the duties on tea and coffee were laid “with a view on Manufactures; and that so much as relates to revenue to the protection of manufactures."

be referred to the Committee of Ways and Means. Mr. POLK then withdrew his proposition to amend. Mr. MARTIN said, that his object was not to provoke,

Mr. McDUFFIE then stated that he disliked the phrase but to allay discussion, when he offered his amendment. ology of the amendment. It seemed to be framed under It appeared, however, that the only difference between the impression that the modifications recommended by the the gentleman from New York and the gentleman from message looked exclusively to the benefit of the manufac. Tennessee, and himself, was about words. The question He hoped that this impression was not the cor- was simply, how much should be referred to these distinct

committees? The only fear of the gentleman from New Mr. MARTIN, of South Carolina, suggested to the gen-York seemed to be, that the Committee on Manufactures teman from New York the propriety of withdrawing his might decide on matters which did not come properly proposition, and accepting an amendment to the following within its sphere. He thought the committee might be effect: “And that so much as relates to a reduction of fairly left to determine its own sphere of duties. It apduties on thase articles of import which cannot come in peared to him to be plain and intelligible. The idea is that competition with our manufactures, be referred to the the tariff, so far as it concerns our manufactures, is a subCommittee of Ways and Means."

ject appropriate for the action of the Committee on ManuMr. TAYLOR said he should be happy to give this factures; and that the subject, as it relates to revenue, is gratification to the gentleman if he could. But it must for the action of another committee. To meet this view, be evident to all that the message docs recommend the he had submitted bis proposition to the House; and he protection of manufactures. Whether the recommenda- would take occasion to move it, should the amendment of tion is jul.cious or not, is not now the question to be clis- the gentleman from New York be rejected; so that not

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