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diffidence and disaffection with respect the numbers and public services of to the authors of them, and especially Catholic Ireland, to a quarter of a to one individual among them, who million of British Catholics : his Pe. has been the calamity of the Catholic tition is short and simple enough; still, body for a long series of years.* I with all my wishes to serve the gentlehave abundant opportunities of know- man himself and his fellow Boardmen ing the fact; and hence I gather the in their temporal as well as in their facility of collecting such a genuine eternal interests, I find the Petition to Catholic meeting, as your respectable be such that I can neither sign it mycorrespondent recommends, the greater self, with satisfaction to my mind, nor facility of getting a Petition, drawn recommend it to others for signature. ep in the ancient and true spirit of I object, in the first place, to the their Religion, signed by as many restricted ground of the Petition, since Catholics, as may be deemed requisite, it complains of no other grievances, on should either or both these measures the part of Catholics, but the want of Become absolutely necessary.

Civil rights and privileges.Have A reference to the learned scribe's we then no Religious grievances, no present Petition to Parliament, adopted / persecution of our soldiers and sailors, by the Board and left for the general | at the discretion of their commanders, signature of the Catholic body, will while the laws remain as they are ? po illustrate some of my former obser- | restriction on the administration of rations and afford me an opportunity the sacrament of matrimony: no conof publicly stating my opinion on a fiscation of property for the support subject of general importance. It of our religion and schools ? Or are must be confessed that the scribe avoids these grievances unworthy to be named, certain defects which occurred in his when the question is to get rid of civil former compositions of this nature. disabilities ? Or, finally, is it really lle no longer soars into the bombast, more diíficult to get redress for the while emulating the truly sublime religious than for the worldly gries flights of the Irish penmen; he no vance. So far from this being the case, more rants about Cressy and Agin- it is well known, that when the Speaker court, to the sickening of his own of the House of Commons inveighed partisans; he does not again arrogate so emphatically against Catholics geta

ting seats in Parliament or high offices * Within these few weeks, a member of

in the state and army, at the rejection the Irish Catholic Board, being in England, of the late Bill, May 24, he invited 2 religious formulary was put into his hands, us to petition for the removal of the with an assurance, that if his countrymen would sign it, their Einancipation would be

two former religious complaints, with Iranted. Upon bis return to Dublin, he pre

an equivalent promise of such petition Heuted it to his Board, who referred it to the being granted. But it has been long Archbishop, when it was discovered to be

known to the present writer, and he is neither inore nor less than the fatal equivo

able to prove that some or other among cating Protestation of 1789, the main source of all the errors and divisions among English

the leading men of the Board have in Catholics, and the Irish gentleman's con pointedly objected to the removal of lexions and correspondence were traced to

each of the above named religious we well-known general author of religious mischief in this country. The person, alluded grievance

grievances. It is reported, indeed, 0, is the same that has been detected tamper- that when Dr. P. moved, at a meeting ing with a Dublin bookseller to give an edition held on the 3d instant, that the matri. of the Blue Book in Ireland, and on a sub

monial grievance should be mentioned sequent occasion tampering with him to deny ! ne fact before a witness, and lastly, excusing

in an Address to the Public, which ubornation on the pretence of sickness 1 is coming out from the Board, (Dr. P. en honourable inen throw the mantle of ought to have required its insertion in eir votes over these and such like deeds, the Petition to Parliament) some sort qey sully the mantle, but they do not purify !

of promise was made that it should be ORTHOD. JOUR. VOL. II.

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privately stated to some of the members the constitution are UNRESERV. by the Deputies of the Board, who are “ ED and UNQUALIFIED,” tak. to present the Petition to them: but King into consideration, as I ought to what reliance can be placed on the ex. do, the sense of Protestants on this ertions of men for the redress of a griev. subject, (who constantly object to us ance which they are ashamed or afraid that our allegiance is reserved and to avow publicly as a gricvance at all. l qualified, while we acknowledge the

I am sensible that my second ob- spiritual supremacy of the Pope) a: jection to the Petition, will be laughed likewise the tenor of our former oaths. at by Catholics, as well as Protestants, which always make or imply the disof the Modern School of Morality and tinction between submission in tem. Religion, but I am resolved, especially poral matters, and submission in spiri. in the situation in which I stand not ptual matters. The necessity of cautior to be laughed out of it. The peti- in this matter is evident from the de. tioners complain of being deprived of clarations made by our leading adyo“ legitimate objects of AMBITION.” cate sin each House of Parliament in Now, I have learnt from the Holy the debate of 1808, no doubt from the Scriptures, the Fathers and the Doctors instructions of wrong-principled Ca. of the Church, and I am bound to tholics. Mr. Grattan assured the teach that ambition, the worst species House of Commons that Catholics of pride, is a fatal vice and the source have " abjured the Pope in all mixed of infinite misery in this world and “ cases." Lord Grenville told the the next. Hence it is impossible House of Lords that, “ In all matters there should be legitimate objects of " of Civil Government, even of that ambition for real Christians. Indeed, " mixed nature in which Ecclesiastical as far as concerns this world, it might and Civil Government are combined, be expected that the groans of the un- the Catholics submit, without rehappy victims of ambition which are " serve, to the supreme authority of heard throughout a great part of it, “ the King in Parliament, and in other would cure all rational people of the “ councils, as civil Governor of the absurdity of transferring the worst of Empire." See Faulder's Debates, vices into the list of virtues. Setting published by N..N. and N. N. Cathoambition fairly aside, may not the lics, p. 16. p. 185. This implies that learned scribe be answered by our we admit the lawfulness of second marlegislators : “ You complain falsely, riages, in cases of divorce, and I know " in your Petition, of not being able not how many other siufúl actions. 66 to exert yourself honourably or My main objection, however, lies 66 usefully in the service of your king against the concluding paragraph of and country; for cannot you pay the Petition, which, after mentioning

double taxes, as you used to do, or the late transactions of the House of

serve in the ranks honourably and Commons, respecting Catholics, withusefully, since it is money and men out the slightest hint of dislike to the W we want, not officers or members of schismatical part of them, prays, that « Parliament? Whereas your friend lit“ Will adopt SUCH MEASURES, « and panegyrist pretends that he can. 1“ for the repeal of the 'penalties and 66 not serve his country, without 66 disabilities to which the Catholics

speechifying among us as he does 66 of Great Britain are subject, as “ among you.” The learned scribe “ the Ilonourable HOUSE SHALL is as unfortunate in the choice of his 16 DEEM EXPEDIENT.” Such is arguments as of his words. . the prayer of the Cabinet Members of

I next object to the terms in which the Board, (the others we may pre. the Catholic Petitioners are made to sume, from various circumstances, were declare that " Their allegiance to taken by surprise,) addressed to a

their king and their attachment to Protestant legislature! They petition

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for relief, and they leave the conditions ( tions, have held the shadow, at least, of of granting it, entirely to the discre- a salvo, by way of shield, over the tenets tion of an assembly which is bound to and discipline of the Catholic Church. swear hostilities to their Religion ! | Even in the last Petition, which preWould Sir John Hippisley, or Dr. ceded the schismatical clauses, the Duigenan, wish for more favourable subscribers expressed a hope, that terms than these? In fact, they are a Parliament would not render void its Carte Blanche, or complete surrender own work, by requiring conditions of that independent spiritual juris inconsistent with the Catholic Relidiction, and Ecclesiastical discipline | gion : but, in the present Petition, of our Church to Protestant politi- even the unsubstantial shadow, is cast cians, which they have, for so many aside, and Protestant legislators, who years, been struggling to obtain. For have repeatedly declared, that the unis there a Catholic so uninformed as restricted Veto, with all its accompanynot to know what the measures are, ments, is the expedient, if not the which our advocates no less than our necessary measure for granting Emanopponents in both Houses of Parlia- cipation, are pressed by Catholics to ment, deem expedient for the repeal of grant the Emancipation, and to “ adopt our disabilities? Did not the whole the measures which they deem exHouse of Commons, speak plain pedient for this end! enough to this point last May, in their I am aware of the pretexts and exvotes on the schismatical Bill? That cuses which the more conscientious the Board itself understands the above laity and clergy, (for there are some quoted passage of the Petition in the Catholics, as the Secretary of State same sense that I do, is sufficiently has declared, who wish for the subju. clear from the studied speech of its gation of their Church,) will resort to public orator, on the 17th of last in their own defence, when the dread. month, when the Petition was under | ed evil has taken place. The former deliberation ; for he then bewailed the will say, as they began to say, in May failure of the late Bill, and again last : “ The Act is entirely“ a Proseverely reprobated the conduct of " testant Act : our friends in Parlia. those Catholics who are supposed to “ment would have things so :" the have caused that failure; and this with latter will say : 66 Who could help it? out reproof from any person present, We entreated the Board to exert except from one, a gentleman from 5 itself in favour of Religion.” But Warwickshire ! What strengthens this I here protest beforehand, and in due proof, is the Resolution then passed time, against the plea of a Protestant by the Board, that means should be Act of Parliament, and the excuse of, taken to get " a distinct and separate | Who could help it: and I maintain I have

discussion of their Petition," namely, I made it evident, that if Protestant legisdistinct and separate from the dislators make a law injurious to the in. cussion of the Irish Petition. And tegrity or safety of our Religion, it why so ? Evidently, because the Pre- will be in consequence of their being lates of Ireland, have three times over invited and prayed to do so; and I am resolved in solemn Synod, that it is moreover ready to prove, that if cernot expedient to make any change in tain English Ecclesiastics would sinthe existing discipline, and because the cerely and heartily make common alty have as often resolved, in their cause with the immortal Prelacy of public meetings, that they never will, Catholic Ireland, and with one hapless of can consent, that the Crown or the brother of theirs, who need not be servants of theCrown, should control or named, the evil may still be helped, and

terfere with the appointment of their the Catholic Religion in this country Ishops. Hitherto, Mr. Butler and his be kept secure. J. MILNER, D. D. Iriends in their Petitions and Resolu. Wolverhampton, March 17, 1814.

rally gave to their adversaries the adTo the Editor of the Orthodox Journal. vantage of wielding that two-edged wea

pon, the reductio ad absurdum ; but Sir,-By the hope which I expressed these men were at least acquainted with in my last letter, that Ireland may con- their subject. A century of polemical tinue to this Island a perpetual posses- security has rendered the Protestants sion, I have approved myself, to you, I almost as little informed of the faith of and your readers, a better patriot than their forefathers as that of the followthe Anglican divine. In recommend- ers of Confucius or the grand Lama. ing a plan of co-operation between the But Protestants are very fond of enCatholics of both islands in the work tering, whenever opportunity offers, of our common Emancipation, I think into conversational controversy with I have pointed out an efficient mean Catholics: on the conduct of such con, of securing the union of the two islands | versations, I now beg leave to offer during the continuance of religious dis- a few words of advice. We are comabilities, and of strengthening that manded to " be ready to give an acunion when the disabilities should be count of the faith that is in us, for removed. The Catholics of Ireland“ the purpose of defending it, (the word are a large proportion of the people of “ apology has taken a different sense), the United Kingdom: but they are to those who ask it with meekness the mass of the population of Ireland." and reverence.” It is my wish that an attractive force There will be very few controversial between the Catholics of both islands conversations, under such a condition, may counteract the repulsive tendency between Catholics and Protestants. of certain proceedings in this country. The latter generally begin the conThus, also, I approve myself a good troversy with an overbearing air, aspatriot. I shall not address you at suming that the Catholic religion present on the subject of petitioning ; | is so entirely ridiculous and unlet us wait the course of events with founded, that no rational apology can patience; they will, according to my be made for it ; that nothing but a toapprehension, afford us abundant oc- tal want of common sense, or an abicasion for the exercise of that virtue: lity to apply common sense to the sublet us endeavour to edify our prejudic-ject of religion, could make any one ed neighbours, by the example of that profess it. They start a topic: when and all other Christian virtues--a mode on this they have received a reasonable of conciliation perfectly unexceptiona. answer, they put on an incredulous, able.

contemptuous grin, and, not in the The correspondence between Mr. least abashed, for they know they have Blair and yourself is amusing enough. the law on their side, they start anPerhaps, for you must permit me to other; they shift their ground :--You entertain some doubts on the matter, complain that Mr. Blair has done so, perhaps it was worth while to publish as if it were not a common case; the his letters, as a fair average specimen skips of a harlequin and the tricks of of the quantum of ignorance and ab. a merry-andrew are stedfastness and surdity usually, exhibited by Protes- | repose' when compared with their evo. tants in their religious disputations with lutions. I speak only of what ordi. Catholics. But I presume not to offer narily passes in conversational contro. any comment on polemics issuing from versies, which I exhort all Catholics the press-only this, Jewell, Hooker, carefully to avoid, . as dangerous to Barrow, Chillingworth, &c. were not charity and useless to the purpose of ignorant of their own or of the Catho-conviction: even when some impreslic religion: the ground which they sion is made on the Protestant, though took, and which every Non-Catholic he may be afraid he is in the wrong, he Christian must necessarily take, gene- is much more afraid of being induced

to be in the right. I have heard but of ever the assertion may shock Mr. two cases in which an affair of this Blair, can have but human authority, sort was rightly conducted. The Rev. if the Church be not a divinely constiFather O'Leary was once accosted by tuted body. To this effect also speaks a Protestant Irish Bishop-- Mr. St. Augustine. Quod ubique, quod “O'Leary, I do not like your doctrine | semper, quod ab omnibus, is but an " of Purgatory.” “My Lord,” said amplification of the word Catholic. If the Rev. Divine, “you may go further the world ever wondered that any " and fair worse.” A Religious at other than the Catholic faith was adoptRome was desired by some English, ed, it could only wonder because that men to enter into a discussion of con- other faith was new. Thus, let all troverted points: he told them to go special topics be avoided, till the auand place themselves before the altar, thority of the church and the evidence and repeat three times the Lord's of prescription be acknowledged. As Prayer, and then return to him. a test of his sincerity let the Protestant

I hope it is unnecessary for me to be required to agree to the following disclaim the presumption of intending proposition, which, to unbiassed unto give advice to those who are heirs derstandings, must appear as an axiom, to the sacred precept and obligation but to which I never yet could obtain “Go and teach all nations.” To the the assent of a Protestant:iftwo relay Catholic, in his intercourse of ligions differ wholly or partially, one common life with the Protestant, I of them must be in the wrong, in so will endeavour to give some hints, if far forth as they differ. From his reyou should think them worthy of in- nitency against this plain self-evident sertion, amid graver matter, in your va- proposition may be inferred his preluable Journal, and he of adoption. determination, at all events, not to

There is a sort of itching of curiosity acknowledge himself in the wrong. sometimes observable about the Pro Names govern the world, said Cætestant, as if he were not perfectly sa sar Augustus; I wish to make some tified with his own belief. Heasks ques- observations on terms which may octious: let the answer be perfectly se- cur in these or other conversations. rious, if prudence so require; otherwise We have hitherto preserved, and shall let it be in good humoured jest. If preserve to the end of time, the excluthe Catholic judges that it is adviseable sive title of CATHOLICS : let all attempts to enter into conversational controver- to deprive us of it be resisted. Notsy, let him take care that it shall begin withstanding the high authority and at the right end. Let him remember the charitable purpose which suggested that it is not for him to justify the the phrase “ Catholics of the Church laith of the church, but for others to “ of England,” the phrase must not be Justify their dissent from it; this task allowed in our polemics. Attempts are they have undertaken. Before he en- made to give to the title Roman Catho. ters into any question as to what ought lic a discriminating meaning, as if to to be believed, let him, if he can, make contra-distinguish the Roman from the separatist understand why he be- some other Catholic. Rather than ad. lieves any thing, even that portion mit the use of the term in this sense, I which he does believe. The general would prefer being called by our old arguments for the faith of the church nick-name of Papist. The Church calls are as old as the church, and have at itself the Catholic Roman Church, inall times co-existed with it. " Id ve- tending'its communion with the Bishop, * rius quod prius,” said an early wri- successor of that Apostle on whom the ter: “vous n'eties pas hier,said church was founded. It is usual for the father of Louis the Sixteenth. The members of the establishment to call Church began at Jerusalem, said St. themselves Churchmen, and the relia Augustine, The Scripture itself, how- gious community to which they be.

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