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cause of an increased delusion being name and residence. Such is the idea practised on them. I make no doubt I form of the subject, and something I am not the only one who has had in this manner ought to be adopted reason to complain of their partiality. / without loss of time; the Parliament Among the most conspicuous of them has already met, and our Petition all stands Mr. Cobbett, who latterly ought to be presented immediately, or has been so ably handled by yourself, as soon as convenient after the Christ and for which you are certainly eiti. mas recess.' One of the difficulties I tled to the thanks of your fellow-Ca allude to, is the choice of Parliamentholics, however the Veto principles tary friends; for, unfortunately, those of some may cause the jealousy with on whom we had trusted with the which they look on you: he is one of greatest confidence for so many desthose to whom I meant to allude in sions, we must now rank among our speaking of the third party, although most dangerous enemies: in Parlia. in general I am much gratified by his ment we can find a Donoughmore, yet arguments on political topics, still I no Hutchinson; a Grattan, yet no agree with yourself in opinion that his Curran; a Mathew, yet no Jones ; a effusions on religious topics are void | Plunkett, yet no Phillips; a Wilberof every thing but ignorance. But force, and yet no real friend to the now, Sir, that we have in a manner universal abolition of slavery: Who surmounted the difficulties which we although always professing charity for had to encounter from the editors of the unfortunate Africans, still is no the newspapers and magazines, through enemy to the persecution and slavery the means of your Journal; now that of the really unfortunate Irish. Here we felt our imaginations gladden at the I would ask this gentleman, or any idea that no empty or ignorant editor one so well informed in the Bible and should with impunity insult our feels New Testament, what part of these ings; now that we had anticipated the holy writings recommends more chaenviable liberty of self-defence, the rity to be observed towards thé Afribirth-right of mankind, and bulwark cans than the Irish ?- In this Session of social order, fresh difficulties star. / we shall have to combat against boast; tle our hopes and disappoint our ed friends and declared enemies, and wishes, and which in my opinion de- / will, I believė, find it difficult to dea mand the most particular attention of cide as to which are the most danger. the Catholics, and call loudly for an ous or insulting. The detested to expression of our sentiments in some script from Quarantottis I fear nas acknowledged shape, and I trust the done more injury to the Catholic example which our fellow.Catholics cause, than it has obtained benen of Lancashire have given us, will not from the many annually, repeated dis; be suffered to remain nugatory, and cussions it has undergone. I would that they alone should stand the tor gladly leave that rescript to oblivio..., rent of abuse which will be thrust at but cannot help regretting the puble them by the venial editors of the mi. city it got: however, I will drop the Histerial prints. No, on this occasion, subject, not wishing to hurt the 12 it is our duty to forget the differences ings of those who, I believe, from existing amongst ourselves, and join | best motives, urged its publication in à Petition to the Legislature, which | As to the Veto. I have no doubt that shall have first been drawn up by per-| subject has been well settled long sons appointed by ourselves at a gene fore now at Rome; indeed from ral meeting held specially for that pur appearance of Doctors Milner pose, and which should have been Murray at that place, no doubt tar submitted, for their approbation, to be entertained as to the result. the Vicars Apostolie, and to which | deed it has ever caused me the great eyery. Catholic should have fixed his surprise, how aby Catholic, Oll?
ture reflection, could give his sanction / vince every one of the dangers which to the measure of the Veto: it is like are the sure accompaniments of such a travellery whó, fearing the attacks laical interference. I would also reof the beasts of prey, seeks the tiger's commend the perusal of the Elucia der, and there demands protection dation of the Veto,” by Felix Mac for the remainder of his journey. The Carthy, Esq. as a wholesome deserty dangers resulting from such measures after the more substantial food. Even are not visionary; they are not sha- some of our Clergy have, I underdows' which start before you and then stand, given their sanction to a Veto. vanishthey are real; the more they However, I trust by this time their are siftedp, the more substantial are eyes will have been opened, and they in« démonstration, and already warned of the deadly stroke aimed at have they been too severely felt in Ca- one of our first doctrines, namely, the Rada, Let any Catholic read over the supremacy of the Pope. But in this instructions of this Government to country, and most particularly in our that of Canada, published in your district, Mr. Editor, we have too Journal for July, p. 245, and then much reason to complain of laical in. draw their own conclusions. Here I terference ; but it is to be hoped the must again stop my, subject, to express time has passed by. The Catholics, how sincerely grateful the Catholics I fear, will have much to encounter of England ought to feel towards you, in the course of next year; but I hope for had it not been for the noble and the greater the danger the more firm independent zeal which urged you to will be their stand : for much will nee come forward and advocate their cessarily depend on unanimity among cause, they must still have remained ourselves. How desirable will it not the general subject of abuse and in- be then to be well acquainted with one sult, without the means of defending another's sentiments. And how is themselvesi: in your Journal alone that acquaintance to be obtained, unhave these instructions appeared in less by frequent meetings ? For, alas! this country; for on this occasion also we have friends, in proportion, as nuk do we find the boasted liberality of merous, and far more dangerous, the English venal Whig, Talent, and among ourselves, than amidst all the Infidel writers slackened, (for they different sects who profess in this are all equally boastful) as it generally country exclusively to preach the gosdoes when the real interests of the pel and adhere to its principles: while Catholic Church is the question. some are preaching from principle, Those instructions were known to others are from opposition ;) while them, as well as to most, if not to all, others are by method, and others our Parliamentary friends (as they are again, by every species of blasphemy, termed). But to return to the Veto ; are announcing new Messiahs, &CiT all those who would still sanction In fact, with all their boasted enlightsuch a proposal, I would recommend | enedness, education, wisdom, religion, the perusal of a most valuable work, and morality, the English.is, on reli. published many years ago, and which gious topics, the most darkened nareally ought to be read by every Ca- tion on earth; and their papers only tholic and Protestant in the kingdom; serve to encrease the darkness and exI refer to the 6 History of the Anglo cite more confusion. This island, like Saxon Church,” by the Rev. John the Tower of Babel, contains at preLingard : then will they percieve with sent nothing but confusion : the differwhat difficulty the Veto was obtainedence existing between these two is, for the Catholic princes, and what that while the inhabitants of the formisfortunes were usually attendant on mer are confused in arguments, the its being granted. The reign of Wil labourers of the latter were confused liam Rufus alone will, I think, con., in languages, but both are equally
presumptuous. In England, religion | Bible Societies, &c. has now publishis in every gaping mouth you meet, ed a." Comparative View of the and still no where can you find it pro- Churches of England and Rome." perly understood. One is of the es This work is printed by the univertablished church, because his father sity printer, and is sold by Rivington, was so before him; another is a Dis. St. Paul's Church Yard; 1 and by senter, because he conceives the church Deightons, Nicholsons, and Barrett, of England to hold principles not con Cambridge. It is sold at the moderato sistent with universal charity; while sum of 7s. 6d. : it contains 350 pages. another feels the spirit moving within The book is unbound, being in boards him, “ Yea, verily, the spirit moveth yet the contents are so valuable, that no me," and yet no pure flame issues | person, particularly a true Protestant, forth; a thick smoke darts forth, and can object to the price. The quantity darkness overshadows the whole.-- certainly is not great, but then, the Bigotry has taken such deep root in quality !-Oh! this will make ample this island, that in eyery corner you amends. And, who shall dare say, meet some public or private building (to make use of a common expresa adapted to the cure, or rather,care sion) that the money is fooled away? (cure being out of the question) of | who shall dare say, that the book persons whom false ideas of religion shall not sell well; and that a Marga. have driven to madness; in no country ret Professor, who gives theological are places of this description so nume. | brains to his readers, does not merit, vous as in England ; and the physi- in return, an episcopal mitre? cians say that five eighth parts of In the first part of the Compara. the distempered minds proceed from | tive View," he has published (as it religion, two-eighths from politics, seems to us) an almost worn-out Lecand the other one-eighth from the na ture on Tradition; and in the second, tural causes : but I believe the only he has, beyond all doubt, insulted, sure method of ascertaining the causes and called in question, the allegiance would be to go from one meeting to of Catholics. He may again repeat another, and hear the arguments which his Lecture, or Lectures, on Tradi. each of the various sects have to urge tion; again may he read Bellarmine, one against the other, and imagine for the Council of Trent, and Dr. Delaa single moment, what must be the hogue: but, in virtue of what autho, inevitable following of such inconsiste rity does the Margaret Professor asencies, and answer, whether a bewil sert, that, Whoever swears, Jura, dered brain will not be the real, con honores, privilegia, et auctoritatem sequent, and natural effect of such | Sanctæ Romanæ Ecclesiæ, Domini conduct, particularly on an unculti. I nostri Papæ, et successorum prædica vated mind. How many fatal instances torum, conservare, defendere, augere, of such an effect on a cultivated mind et promovere curabo, must swear it at might we not quote, were not delicacy the expence of his fealty to his Sovein the way.
reign? Supposing, then, the Right Renewing my former wishes for Rev. the Vicars Apostolic of this coun, your success, I again subscribe myself try have, amongst other clauses, taken your's sincerely, . T. M.
the above in their consecration oath, London, Nov. 24, 1814,
the consequence, according to the
doctor, is, they have forfeited their To the Editor of the Orthodox Journal. allegiance, violated their fidelity to
their lawful sovereign, and are no SIR,_Dr. Marsh, the Margaret | longer good subjects, but traitors. Professor of Theology, in the Uni. As also are the Irish Catholic prelates, versity of Cambridge, in addition to who may have taken the same, gath. bis late publications relating to the Is Dr. Marsh apprized of the impor.
tance which might be attached to this , religious slavery. Many grave and assertion? I would ask this Reverend weighty and conclusive arguments are Professor, this theological director of adduced in proof of this assertion. studious youths, what is the difference The doctrine of exclusive salvation, as between libelling the whole body of maintained by the Catholic church, is respectable and learned Catholic bish: very grating to the religious feelings ops, and libelling an individual? He of the Professor; although he exis no doubt well aware of the differ- ultingly brings it forward, to prove ence, both in a legal and moral point that it enslaves the conscience, and of view.
enchains the faculties of man. On .. There is a variety of other topics to this subject I have only to remind this be met with in this “ Comparative | theologian, that “ he that believeth
View." Amongst others, I cannot not shall be condemned;" that the but notice the one, writing on which, Christian is not at liberty to affix sal. he has endeavoured to prove the vation to his own conditions; and that Church of England to be a system of if the Catholic hopes for eternal hapreligious liberty, and the Church of piness, it is, in the first instance, beRome a system of religious slavery. cause he stedfastly (not to use the term Whether the church of England be, slavishly) believes in all the truths or be not, such a systém as he has which God has revealed, and which the described, I have at present neither church of God has taught: and in the time nor inclination to make a minute second, because he endeavours to ob enquiry. It is however worthy of serve, strictly and religiously, the notice, that' every Protestant is so commandments of God, and of his free, that he is at liberty to withdraw church: whereas, the Margaret Doc. himself from the communion of his tor of Divinity would have the conchurch. And will Dr. Marsh venture sciences of all men at liberty, to to assure his readers that such a man believe and disbelieve whatever ac. is free; when he is shortly after met cords or disagrees with their notions by the parson of the parish, who comes of religion. in search of the strayed sheep, not in. • To admit that the church of Eng. deed with the Bible in one hand, and land may have erred, is certainly very the 39 Articles in the other, to con. considerate and condescending in one vince him of the error he has commit. of its most conspicuous theological ted in deserting an establishment al | professors. Every member, there. most 260 years old; þut he comes to fore, of the established church, is at him, demanding his tithes ! In vain | full liberty to secede from its jurisdicdoes the free man urge that he no tion :' and he is at liberty to become, longer belongs to his church; that he what? Not a Catholic; for of a free is now obliged to assist those minis- man, he would become a slave; the ters who have received him into their church of Rome being a system of re. communion, and who are perhaps | ligious slavery. What then may he equally deserving; and that a Dr. become? I imagine Dr. Marsh him. Marsh' has written a book, in which self would blush for the honour of he says, that the church, which he his church, in answering this ques. has left, was a system of religious li- tion: not, however, that the man has bertyj. The parson replies, My good no choice; but, indeed, because he friend, I must have my tithes: with has so great a choice. Relinquishing regard to those ministers who 'now then the tenets of the church of Engpreach to you, assist them as you can: land, and permitted to do so, he is and as to Dr. , he would act now a Dissenter, then a Seceder; to. just as I do. si '.
day a Brownist, to-morrow a PædoTo return, however, to the charge, baptist, Baptist, or Quaker; on Sun, that the church of Rome is a system of day next a Calvinistic Methodist; the Sunday after,ap'Arminian: and, not, | To the Editor ofthe Orthodox Journa. withstanding his strength is now exhausted in groping his way through Mr. Epitor, I am happy in peru; this maze of irreligious-I beg the sing your excellent Journal, sto find Doctor's pardon--religious confusion, you, always, and on all occasions, his conscience yet impels, and the with temper, firmness, and dignity, Professor permits, him to become a defending and maintaining the cause Jumper! Such are the happy, such of truth; or, in other words, is the the saluta ưy consequences of the Catholic orthodox faith and disci, church of England's system of reli- pline, in all its bearings. This is gigus liberty; such the effects which standing your ground with consistent have been, apd are to this day to be dignity: this is defending the invinci. attributed to private interpretation of ble good old cause, as every orthothe Scriptures. Livind dox champion ought to defend it
The Margaret Professor has in Let ne ancient approved Catholic formed his readers that the church of principle; let np approved Catholic England is a system of religious lis practice, which we have received from berty. Does this system extend its our yenerable forefathers, be given up, self to the State. As the Church and or hid behind a . curtain, through State are held to be inseparable, shame, or a modern temporising false i . (As Jack and Gill j.. . prudence let us not desist from free . Upon a hill,)
quent and fervent invocations of the by many persons who oppose the Ca.
who oppose the Cå; Mother of God, and the saints, and tholic claims, with as many arguments, though with fewer tears, than
angels., Did not St. Paul always ex
hort the faithful to hold fast the tra, my Lord E. ..., I am very desirous that Dr. Marsh, in' his next publica.
ditions as he delivered them;" that is, tion, should give us his opinion on
undoubtedly, without either changing the subject.
or omitting them on any account. Let Should the Professor, l us not see a Catholic neglect to make after mature deliberation, be of opi
the sign of the cross on all proper oc: nion that they are not inseparable; casions: but let us see him do it with but that the State, compared to the
that respect that is becoming so sacred sun, and the Chụrch very properly to
| an action: let us see him always use the moon, 'alternately controul and I holy water; and, on all proper occa. inffuence their respective members, 1 sions, make a most respectful genu: shall thank the Doctor for, the hint; | flection before the divine sacrament or and I will candidly tell him and his the altar; and not content himseu admirers, (if he has any), that, as a with tapping his breast with the polats British subject, I obey the laws of the
of his fingers at the Confiteon, Agnus State, I would therefore be not de.
| Dei, and Domine non sum dignus, SC prived of the cheering rays of the poli- | For to what can we attribute, either tical sun; but as a Catholic, in reli.
neglect in doing these things as they gious matters, I follow the dictates
ought to be done, or not doing them of my conscience, and am, therefore,
at all, but to a falşe shame, or a tornot ambitious to place myself under | pid negligence.. the influence of the Doctor's ecclesias,
Ought not the wise Christian to me tical moon. The consequences would
ware of the works and wiles of Satan, really be too serious.*
to destroy immortal souls? Let us Nov. 20, 1814. M. J, W. S.
see what the arch fiend does amongst
those whom he separates from the one · The Margaret Professor is respectfully
fold, under the one shepherd, the informed, that Joanna Southcott is at pre
Holy Catholic Church; the one true sent in the full and perfect enjoyment of res
spouse of Jesus Christ. Does he not I banish from them the use of the sacred
ligious liberty; , .