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as late as the days of the Jameses, though the members usually adjourned to a neighbouring village for the transaction of business. This pit still remains, and though much effaced by long ploughing, is yet a remarkable spot. It is on very high ground, sunk to a depth of about twelve or fourteen feet deep, and forms a complete amphitheatre of about eighty yards across. It goes by the name of the Moot House Pit; a phrase that points to the original meaning of the expression still in use, to moot or debate a point. It would be interesting to find out whether the ancient synod called Clovishou was held in some such pit, and perhaps there may be yet a legendary trace of it in the neighbourhood which might elucidate the matter and support my theory, that hou simply means hole. M. £. M.

Exomsh Wool In 1682. — Subjoined is an earlier testimony to the excellence of English wool and cloth : —

"Colles passim multi, millis arborilms consiti, neque aquarum fonlibus irrigui, qui herbam tenuissiraam atquc brevissimam producunt, qua tamen ovibus abunde pabulum suppediat; per eos ovium greges candidissimi vagantur, qua' sire cocli, seu bonitate terra?, mollia, et Ionge omnium aliarum regionum tenuissima ferunt vellera. Hoc vellus vere aurum est, in quo potissimum insulanorum divitise consistunt; nam magna et auri et argenti copia a negociatoribus ej usmodi imprimis co&nendai mercis gratia, in insulam quotannis importatur."

Again: —

"Notissimum est et illud, pannos Anglicos ob materia; bonitatem valde commendari, et in omnia Kuropic regna et provinciaa importari."— From the Itinerary of Paul Hentzner, 1568. (See " N. & Q." 3'* S. iv. 428.;

Job J. B. Wokkard.

The Golden Dropsy. — This was, perhaps, a well-worn phrase when Arthur Dent wrote of some, "These men are sick of the golden dropsy, the more they have the more they desire." A very good illustration hereof is supplied by Garth in The Dispensary:

"Then Hydrops next appears amongst the throng;
Bloated and big she slowly sails along:
But, like a miser, in excess she's poor,
And pines for thirst amidst her watery store."

B. H. C.

Prester-john In The Arms Of The See Of Chichester. — Mr. Boutell, in his book on Heraldry, says (p. 436), that he has never seen a satisfactory blazon of these arms, and suggests that Prester-John is intended to represent St. John the Evangelist.

I saw, some time ago, an instance of the figure being drawn rather differently from the usual manner: the sword being represented, not as piercing the mouth, but as proceeding from it (the hilt, and not the blade, being between the lips), and the blade extended towards the sinister. To my mind it is perfectly clear that the figure re

presents neither Prester-John nor the Evangelist, but our Blessed Lord Himself, seated, and in the act of benediction. The reason of His being represented with a sword proceeding from His mouth will be clear to any one who refers to the Book of Revelation, i. 16; ii. 12; xix. 15.

John Woodward. New-Shorehaui.

[Mr. Dallaway's remarks on the arms of the diocese of Chichester and its ancient seal, upon which was engraven the figure of Christ, may be found in our 1" S. x. 186.]

Misapprehension Of A Text. — A curious instance of a mistaken reference to Scripture is found in Gesner's edition of Horace. Commenting on the words, "sagittas et eelerem fugam Parthi" (Carm., ii. 13, 18), Gesner refers to Psalm lxxvii. 9 —" Filii Ephrera intendentes et mittentes arcum conversi sunt in die belli"—as a proof of the Parthian mode of fighting being practised by the Jews. The passage, as every one knows, has nothing whatever to do with this matter. W. J. D.

Titles Op Books. — Not less curious, perhaps, than the derivation of the titles of serials from poets, would be titles of celebrated books, having a similar origin; e.g. Gibbon's great work evidently owes its title, perhaps its suggestion, to Thomson's lines: — ". . . . The sage historic muse Should next conduct us through the deeps of Time, Show us how Empire grew, declined, andfeU."

As does the scarcely less famous work, in its own line, of Adam Smith appear indebted to Dryden, who says: — "The winds were hushed, the waves in ranks were cast

As awfully as when God s people passed;

Those, yet uncertain on whose sails to blow;

These, where the Wealth of Nations ought to flow."

Such an instance as Douglas Jerrold's taking a title from Shakspeare's words —

"Dost thou think because thou art virtuous there shall be no more Cakes and Ale f "—

is not much in point; but I should think that, when Prof. G. L. Craik wanted a title for his book called The English of Shakspeare, he must have had some latent memory of Wordsworth's words— "We must be free or die who speak Me tongue That Shakspeare spake.

By-the-bye, may not Leigh Hunt's volumes — Men, Women, and Books — be somewhat indebted to the same writer's

"But equally a want of books and men "?

Samuel Neil. Moffat.

Transportation Op Muir.—Perhaps you may regard the following extract, from the Diary and Correspondence of Lord Colchester, as meriting the greater publicity, which it will receive by being copied into your widely-circulated columns. The subject to 'which it relates is now an old one, viz. the trials which took place in Scotland in 1793 and 1794, of Thomas Muir and others, on the charge of sedition; but though old, it has not yet entirely lost its interest, and public attention has been recalled to it in the Memoirs of Lord Cockbum. The sentence of transportation for fourteen years, which followed on the convictions, has generally been thought very severe—even after making allowance for the excitement of the times; but it now appears to have been utterly illegal. Lord Colchester's words are :—

"The Act, 25 Geo. III. cap. 46, for removing offenders in Scotland to places of temporary confinement, was suffered to expire in 1788, when the Act 24 Geo. III. cap. 56, for the removal of offenders in England, was continued by Stat. 28 Geo. III. cap. 24. And this accidental expiration of the Scotch Act was so much unnoticed, that Muir and Palmer were actually removed from Scotland, and transported to Botany Bay; though there was no Statute then in force to warrant it"—Vol. i. p. 60.

That this outrage on the law (for it deserves no milder term) should have been permitted, seems equally discreditable to the court, the public prosecutor, and the legal advisers of the accused.

J. R. B.



Authors Op Hymns. — I should feel greatly obliged if any reader of " N. & Q." could state who composed any of the following hymns: — "Ere another Sabbath's close."

Bicheratet/i's Coll. 1833. "God of mercy, thron'd on high."

Bichersteth'i Coll. 1833. *' Hosanna! raise the pealing hymn."

Cams Wilton'* Coll 1838. "In memory of the Saviour's love."

Whittmgham's Coll. 1835. "Jesus Christ is risen to-da3\"

Prayer Booh. "Jerusalem, my happy home."

(About 1790.) "Lord of my life, whose tender care."

Society Hymn Booh, 1853. "Lord, when before Thy throne we meet"

Society Hymn Booh, 1853. "0 God, Thy grace and blessing give."

.Society Hymn Booh, 1853. "Rejoice, though storms assail thee."

Burgas's Coll. 1853. "Saviour who Thy flock art feeding."

American Prayer Booh.

"Thou God of love, beneath Thy sheltering wings."

Church Porch, July 2,1855.

Daniel Sbdqwick. Sun Street, City.

Rkv. Edwabd Bourchier.—Information as to the parentage and ancestry of the Rev. Edward

Bourchier, M.A., is much desired. He was Rector of Bramfield, Herts, from 1740 to 1755; Vicar of All Saints, and St. John's, in Hertford; Justice of the Peace for Herts; died Nov. 17, 1755, aged sixty-eight, and was buried in Brantfield church. The arms on his monument there are those of the old Earls of Ewe and Essex; from which it may be inferred that he was of the same stock. Can any reader of "N. & Q." say how he derived from them? His brother, Charles Bourchier, "went to Ireland after the Revolution with the Hon. Gen. Villiers, his (Charles's) wife's uncle;" was M.P. for Armagh at the time of his dealh, in 1716; and father of Charles Bourchier, sometime Governor of Bombay.

Edwtn Ap Grono.

Chaperon.—Will some of your French correspondents, with an authority which I cannot pretend to, inform the British public that this word does not assume a. feminine form, when applied to a matron protecting an unmarried girl?

It signifies "a hood;" and, when used metaphorically, means, that the experienced married woman shelters the youthful debutante as a hood shelters the face. But almost all our authors, especially our novelists, write the word "chaperone," when used metaphorically.

One is reminded of the British female at Calais, who, on being asked by the blanchisseuse whether a certain piece of linen was not sa chemise, replied with dignity: "Non, e'est le chemis de mon mari." Sttlites.

Sib John De Contngsbt.—I should feel obliged if any of the numerous correspondents of " N. & Q." could give any particulars respecting the lineage of the Sir John de Coningsby, who was slain in the Barons' Wars at Chesterfield, temp. John, 1266.

G. J. T. Leeds.

Cowpeb. — I should feel obliged if some correspondent of " N. & Q." would kindly furnish me with a complete list of the Biographies of Cowper, and Sketches of his Life. Exclusive of the admirable productions of Southey, Grimshaw, Taylor, &c, I believe there are other publications extant which appeared shortly after his demise.* I should also feel thankful for a list of the various lectures which have been given on the life and genius of the poet. C. K.

_ John Cbanidge, M.A.—This gentleman published : —

"A Mirror of the Burgesses and Commonalty of the City of Bristol, in which is exhibited to their view a part of the great and many interesting benefactions and endowments of which the City hath to boast, and for which the Corporation are responsible as the Stewards and Trustees thereof. Correctly transcribed from authentic documents. Bristol, 8vo."

[• Vide Bonn's Lowndes, art. "Cowper," p. 641.—Ed.]

There is no date on the title-page, but the Dedication is dated Upper Easton Row, Nov. 20, 1818. The work, including index, contains 296 pages. It would seem to have been published in numbers. I desire to know more about this author. S. Y. R.

De Foe And Dr. Livingstone. — I think it nearly certain, from a perusal of De Foe's Life of Captain Singleton, and Dr. Livingstone's late travels, that the former must have been acquainted with some traveller who had crossed the southern part of the African continent, and had seen the Victoria Falls. I remember having once met with an old map on which, and nearly in the latitude of Livingstone's discoveries, was marked the track of a Portuguese traveller who had crossed the continent, but I forget in what book. Can any of your readers remind me? H. C.

Gustavb Dobe.—Will some French reader of "N. & Q." put on record in your pages a list of the books illustrated by that wonderful artist Gustave Dore, who has gained world-wide fame by his Dante and Don Quixote f I have seen cheap French novels, containing woodcuts by him, which are unsurpassed by any of his later works. A Loud Of A Manor.

De. Thomas — Can I be informed where I can consult a copy of The Life of that Reverend Divine and learned Historian, Dr. Thomas Fuller, published anonymously, in 12mo, in London, 1661? Has it ever been republished? and who of his many friends is supposed to have written it? I have recently been compiling a life of this quaint and witty author, but have never been able to come across the Life referred to. I may perhaps have read most of it second-hand, because being the only authentic narrative of this noted writer, it has frequently been quoted from by the old authorities. Oldys, in the article in the Biographia Britannica, seems to have quoted most liberally from it, and the articles in recent cyclopaedias, &c, have been compiled, for the most part, from this and not the former authority.* May I also ask if any of your Cambridge correspondents can inform me whether it was Mr. Fuller who buried old Hobson, the University carrier, who for the mercy shown towards his beasts, still lives in a well-known proverb, and who "sickened in the time of the vacancy, being forbid to go to London by reason of the plague?" He died in the parish of St. Ben'et, at a time when Fuller was the curate thereof. J. E. B.

[* Two copies of the Life of Dr. Thomas Fuller are in the British Museum. Only one edition was printed, although it appears with two different titlepages, one dated "London, 1661;" the other "Oxford, 1662." A copy, with the autograph of Bishop Kennett, was sold among Dr. Bliaa'a books Ed.]

Heather Bu Rn Ing .—In The Field newspaper of April 12,1863, I find, in a letter signed " Pharos," on the subject of burning the heather, or muirburn, as it is called in Scotch law phraseology, an inquiry implying something like an assertion: —

"If there was not a convention between France and Scotland, sometime before the Union, which limited the burning of heather, owing to the injury occasioned by the process to the vineyards of France."

"Pharos" suggests some other curious speculations as to the contingent effects of burning the heather, but I would only ask, whether there is any foundation for the above, or whether it can be answered in the affirmative? J. C. H.

The Order Op Victobia And Albert. — Can any of your correspondents oblige me with information about this order, said by the Court Newsman to have been worn by two of the Royal Princesses on the occasion of the baptism of the infant Prince Victor Albert? I should be glad to learn the date of its institution, the number of its members, and the character of the decoration.

J. Woodward.


"We have many ruines of such bathes found in this island, among those parietines and rubbish of old Bomane townes."— Burton, Anai. Mel 2, 2, 2, 2.

I presume this means walls. I do not find the word any of the old dictionaries to which I have access, nor in Halliwell. J. D. Campbell.

Paeson Chapp.

"But, if some poor scholar, some parson chaff, will offer himself; some trencher chaplain, that will take to the halves, thirds, or accept of what he [the patron] will give, he is welcome . . ."—Burton, Anat. Mel. 1, 2, 3,15.

What is the exact meaning of this? Does chaff refer to talk (our modern slang, literally jaw, among bits of slang), or to chaffering = selling or bargaining, or what? J. D. Campbell.

"rob Roy."—What are the allusions, either political or historical, in the following passage in Rob Roy t

"' Our allies,' continued the duke (i. e. of Montrose), 'have deserted us, gentlemen, and have made a separate peace with the enemy.'

'Its just the fate of all alliances,' said Garschattachin: 'the Dutch were gaun to serve us the same gate, if we had not got the start of them at Utrecht.9

'You are facetious, sir,' said the duke, with a frown, which showed how little he liked the pleasantry; 'but our business is rather of a grave cast j ust now.'"—Sob Soy, ii. 251, edit. 1830.


A Gentleman's Signet.—A gentleman's signet, pendent from a watch-chain, has recently been picked up here. Crest: a horse's head, and motto 2EORB De Teamite Recto. A couple of advertisements have failed to find an owner for it, and I shall be glad if some correspondent will indicate the family, and supply the full Latin phrase.

H. M.


Said To The Collier."—In a deposition made before the magistrates of this borough, in the year 1603, in a case of riot respecting the cutting down of a Maypole, the original MS. of which is now before me, the witness deposed that one Agnes Watkin, the wife of a shoemaker, railed against the witness and Mr. Gillott (one of the magistrates who was ordering the removal of the Maypole), saying, "Thou art like 'unto like, as the Devil said to the collier." I do not find this proverb in Kelly's Proverbs of all Nations, or Bohn's Handbook of Proverbs. The latter work has, " Like to like, as Kan to Nicholas." Butler, however, in his Hudibras (canto ii. 1. 350), clearly refers to it when he says,—

"As like the devil as a collier."

Is it prevalent in any part of the kingdom at the present day as a popular saying?

William Leicester.

Turner's Miscellanea Curiosa.—There have been several works bearing this title, or with some trifling specific addition; as, for instance, the Miscellanea Scientiftca Curiosa, by Wales and Green. In Gent's Life, p. 183, under the date A.d. 1734, it is stated,—

"I printed Miscellanea Curiosa for Mr. Thomas Turner, a work which got credit both to the author and to me, for the beautiful performance thereof. It was published quarterly; but, for want of encouragement, the work ceased in less than a year's time, when the mathematic types ceased to be of an}' use to me."

I have never seen a copy of the work, nor have I been able to find any other notice of its editor. Can any of the correspondents to "N. & Q." supply further particulars? T. T. W.

Value or Monet, 30 Edw. III. — Bote, in his History of Windsor, p. 33, says that —

"William de Wyckham (who afterwards attained to the dignity of the Bishop of Winchester) had a Surveyor's place granted to him by Letters Patent, bearing test at Westminster the 30"> of "October, Anno 30 Ed. iij. He had a grant of the same fee as had been formerly allowed to Robert de Bernham — viz. one shilling a day while he stayed at Windsor in his employment; two shillings a day when he went elsewhere about that business; and three shillings a week for his Clerk: which allowances had been first of all made to Richard de Rochell."

My Query is, what was the value of the above wages in comparison with the value of money at this time and fees now paid to architects P


Professor Wilson's Father. — Mrs. Gordon, in her Memoir of her father, says : —

"Of Mr. Wilson, senior, I know little more than that ho was a wealthy man, having realised his fortune in trade as a gauze manufacturer. The integrity of his character and his mercantile successes gave him an important position in society, and he is still remembered in

Paisley as having been in his own day one of the richest and most respected of its community.

The lack of information regarding Mr. Wilson's family exhibited in the above extract is very remarkable; especially when so many allusions are made to his mother's connexions, and none whatever to his father's, excepting to his brother, through whom the nephew lost bis patrimony, and whose name is not even given. Surely something more might have been given to the world relative to the progenitors of so remarkable a man as Christopher North. It would be interesting to know something of his pedigree, so as to account for the remarkable physical peculiarities of the man. Can nothing be learned of his descent from sources outside of the family circle? Did the professor never say anything regarding his grandfather, or any of his father's connexions? It would doubtless be difficult to get what might be called a history of the Wilson family, but certainly something more might have been procured than is to be found in the above extract.

T. G. D. Leitb.

CiurrirS luttlj Qiis'turrS.

John Lund or Pontefract, A Humorous Poet.—In that inaccurate and most unsatisfactory work, Boothroyd's History of Pontefract, is the following passage: —

"The author of the Newcastle Rider and other poems, merits notice, as an instance of native genius, without the advantage of a literary education. His name was Lun, and his occupation that of a barber. The first attempt to obtain the freedom of the borough bronght bis poetical talents into exercise; and his various squibs and effusions obtained considerable applause. These productions were collected together, and published under the title of Duniad. Some of the pieces in the collection, for keenness of satire and justness of sentiment, would not disgrace the pen of a Churchill."—P. 495.

The obscurity in this account, arising from the want of a Christian name and of a date is obvious, though it may perhaps be inferred from another part of the book, that " the first attempt to obtain the freedom of the borough" really means 1768 or thereabouts. The collected poems being called Duniad, induced a suspicion that "Lun * might be a misprint for " Dun."

On looking at Lowndes's Bibliographers' Manual (ed. Bonn, 1413), I discovered the following work: —

"lund, Jo., Original Tales in Verse, and Oddities in Prose and Verse." Doncaster, 8vo, 2 vols. Wrangham, 8*.

From this I concluded that Lund was the real surname of him whom Boothroyd has called Lun. The "Jo" left me doubtful as to the Christian name being John, Joseph, or Jonathan; but on referring to Richardson's Borderers Table-Book (vi. 169), I found The Newcastle Rider; or, Ducks and Peas, a tale by John Lund. Hence I suppose his Christian name was "John."

According to Mr. Hotten's Hand Booh of Topography (6115, 6116), Dxtchs and Green Peas, or the Newcastle Rider was first published at Newcastle, 12mo, 1785; and there was an edition, Alnwick, 12mo, 1827.

I hope through your columns to ascertain when John Lund died, and when his work mentioned by Lowndes was printed. It must, I imagine, be of rare occurrence, but it is probably in the great Yorkshire collection of your correspondent Mr. Edward Hailstone. S. T. R.

[We have before us a pamphlet of 104 pages in paper covers, entitled " A Collection of Original Tales in Verse, in the manner of Prior. To which is added, A Second Edition of Ducks and Ptast; or, the Newcastle Rider. Together with the above Story in a Farce of One Act, as it was performed at the Theatre in Pontefract with great applause, and several other Originals never before published. London: Printed for the Author, and sold by him and J. Lyndley, Bookseller, in Pontefract, 1777,8vo." Then follows the Preface, signed John Lund; after that another title-page, entitled Ducks and Pease; or, the Newcastle Rider: a Farce in One Act. By John Lund, of Pontefract, 1776.

A reprint of the farce Ducks and Green Peas was published at Newcastle without date, but probably about 1838, 12mo.

Lund was also the author of the following work: "A Collection of Oddities, in Prose and Verse, Serious and Comical. By a very Odd Author. Printed for, and sold by the Author (John Lund) in Pontefract, and by C. Plummer, in Doncaster," 8vo. No printed date; but some one has added in ink 1779 in the British Museum copy.]

Preface To The Bible. — It appears that both a Preface and Dedication were written by the translators of our Authorised Version of the Bible. The Dedication generally accompanies our ordinary editions, not so the Preface. Where can I find: a copy of the latter? Query. Any where except in the first or early editions of the Authorised Version? Is it reprinted in any biblical work of modern date? G. J. Cooper.

[The inexpediency of publishing the Authorized Version of the English Bible without the Translators' Preface and the marginal readings, has of late years engaged the attention of the episcopal bench. This important matter was discussed in the Upper House of Convocation on Feb. 18, I860, when the following resolution was passed: "That the Most Reverend the President be prayed to draw the attention of the Curator of the Press at Oxford to the publication of the Holy Bible without the marginal readings, and without the Translators' Preface; and to nrge that editions of all sizes shall be printed with the marginal readings, and with at least such portions of the Translators' Preface as are necessary to the true under

standing of their intention in what they give us as our Bible."

The Preface makes forty pages in the quarto Bibles, and its great length is the reason assigned by the Oxford, Cambridge, and Queen's printers, why they do not reprint it in the ordinary Bibles, inasmuch as they would find it extremely difficult to compete with the Scotch press. Thus, from a principle of economy, they exhibit the version of the text of what is called " The Bishops' Bible;" but by the omission of the Preface and the marginal readings, they do not exhibit the Bible in the seuse which the translators of the Authorised Version intended.

The Preface is so seldom reprinted, it is to be feared that to the present generation it is almost unknown. We are indebted to the present Archbishop of Dublin for bringing this important document to the notice of the public in the year 1859. "This Preface," remarks Dr. Trench, " is, on many grounds, a most interesting study, chiefly, indeed, as giving at considerable length, and in various aspects, the view of our Translators themselves in regard of the work which they had undertaken, while every true knower of our language will acknowledge it as a masterpiece of English composition." On the Authorized Version of the New Testament, edit. 1859, p. 85. Consult also an article on this important subject by our esteemed correspondent, J. H. Markland, Esq., in our i»* S. ix. 194.

The Preface has been reprinted in the Standard Edition of the Bible, corrected and edited by Dr. Benjamin Blayney, Oxford, 1769, 4to; also in that printed at the request of King William IV. at the Pitt Press at Cambridge, large 4to, 1837 (see "N. & Q." 3"> S. v. 86), as well as in the Oxford English imperial 4to editions of 1851 and 1863.]

Goose Intentos. — In An Universal Etymological English Dictionary, by N. Bailey, London, 1745, I read —

"Goose-Intentos, a goose claimed by custom by the husbandmen in Lancashire, upon the 16th Sunday after Pentecost, when the old church prayers ended thus, ac bonis operibus jugitcrprastat esse intentos"

Can anyone tell me the origin of this custom, who the goose was claimed of, whether the custom still exist;', and what can possibly be the connection between a goose and the collect for the 16th Sunday after Pentecost? It is curious that the 16th Sunday after Pentecost should be named, as in the old Sarum books those Sundays are reckoned post Trinitatem as in our present liturgy, where the collect occurs on the 17th Sunday after Trinity.


[Blount, in his Glossographia, says, that "in Lancashire, the husbandmen claim it as u due to have a gooseintentos on the 16th Sunday after Pentecost: which custom took its origin from the last word of the old church-prayer of that day: 'Tua nos Domine, qusesumus, gratia semper et praeveniat et sequatur; ac bonis operibus jugiter prtestct esse intentos.' The vulgar people called it a goose with ten toes." Beckwith, in his new edition

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