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Oct. 14, 1837.)
Deposite Banks—General Appropriation Bill, dc.
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Mr. THOMPSON strongly opposed the bill, and ex GENERAL APPROPRIATION BILL-AMENDpressed his determination to defeat it, and moved that it be
On motion of Mr. CAMBRELENG, the House then
resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole on the state Mr. OWENS moved that the committee rise, and report of the Union, (Mr. BRIGGs in the chair,) and took up the the Seminole war bill, which was agreed to; and that bill amendments proposed thereto by the Senate. There were having been engrossed, was read the third time and passed. three. DEPOSITE BANKS.
The first makes appropriation of $25,000 for the print
ing and binding of certain documents ordered by the Sen. On motion of Mr. JOHNSON, of Louisiana, the bill ate. from the Senate “for adjusting the remaining claims upon The second provides for an additional appropriation of the late deposite banks” was taken up.
$2,000, for extra clerk hire in the office of the Solicitor of Mr. J. moved to amend the bill by striking out the the Treasury, under laws passed at the present session of clause granting the deposite banks four, six, and nine Congress. months, and by inserting the following: “The first instal The third authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to ment to be paid on the first day of July next, the second settle all outstanding Treasury dafts or transfers on the on the first day of January, 1839, and the remaining in- | deposite banks, under the deposite act of 1836, such drafts stalment on the first day of July, 1839.” Mr. J. ex or transfers to be received at par in the payment of debts, plained the important services rendered to the Govern without allowance of interest or damages thereon. ient by the two deposite banks in the city of New Or- / Mr. GARLAND, of Louisiana, made objection to the leans, and the strong claims they had upon the Govern- second proposed amendment; and, ly consent, the other ment for indulgence, and exhibited a statement showing two amendments were first taken up, and concurred in by the millions which had been transferred, by order of the the committee. Secretary of the Treasury, from other points to the said The second amendment being then exclusively under banks in New Orleans, and paid there. He remarked that consideration, after some remarks from Messrs. JOHNthose banks would probably sustain immense losses by re SON, of Louisiana, and THOMPSON, the proposition mittances in exchange to points designated by the Secreta was rejected: Yeas 67, nays 62. ry of the Treasury, in consequence of the protest of the On motion, the committee then rose, and reported the greater portion of them. Had the bills so purchased and amendments to the House. And the question being on remitted heen paid, nearly the whole debt due to the Gov- the concurrence of the House with the Senate in the proernment would have been extinguished. They were drawn, posed amendments, (the question being taken on them seve he said, on houses believed to be perfectly good at the time, erally,). and would have been punctually paid but for the recent
Mr.'WHITTLESEY, of Ohio, demanded some explapressure, which had created such a convulsion in the com nation as to the first amendment, calling for an addimercial affairs of the country. Notwithstanding those tional appropriation of $25,000 for certain printing and losses, however, the banks, he said, are now prepared, and binding. always have been, to pay the whole amount due by them,
The Clerk read several resolutions of the Senate auth.). in such funds as they received in deposite.
rizing the printing of certain documents relating to the cesMr. J. contended that, independently of the claims of sion of the District of Columbia to the United States, and the deposite banks upon the Government for indulgence, it other subjects ; and, after some remarks from Messrs..CARwas due to the people that it should be granted ; that, by 'TER, MENEFEE, CUSHING, and DUNCAN, the pressing the banks, a pressure would be created upon the amendment was concurred in. people. He was decidedly opposed to the amendment pre
Mr. CUSHING then asked for some information in resented by his colleague, (Mr. GARLAN), ) as well as to the gard to the third proposed amendment; and whether the one offered by the gentleman from New York. They were provisions it contains were intended to reach, or to apply both calculated, if adopted, to operate injuriously.
to, any particular case ?
The first and third amendments of the Senate were
A mution to adjourn was here made, and lost.
THE NEW YORK FIRE BILL.
Mr. CAMBRELENG moved that the House go into Mr. CAMBRELENG replied in the affirmative.
Committee of the Whole on the bill to relieve the owners The previous question was then seconded, and the main
of goods destroyed at the great fire in New York from the question having been ordered, the amendment was concurred in; and the question being on the final passage of the bill,
And this motion was lost by a payment of duties thereon.
vote of 66 yeas to 70 nays.
HOUR OF MEETING ON MONDAY.
Mr. WHITTLESEY, of Ohio, asked the consent of
Mr. WHITTLESEY demanded the suspension of the taining no provision for the case of those banks against rule, to enable him to make the motion : this motion rewhich suits had been actualiy instituted.
quiring a vote of two-thirds, prevailed— Yeas 112, nays After a few words from Mr. MARTIN, the question not counted; and the motion to meet at 8 o'clock on Monwas taken on the passage of the bill, as amended, and de- / day morning was carried. .cided in the affirmative.
Another unsuccessful motion was then made to adjourn.
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Deposite Bank Adjustment Bill.
(Oct. 16, 1837.
Several enrolled bills were presented, and signed by the Mr. WISE would not consent to act on a matter so imSpeaker.
portant in that state the House. Here were some 80 memMr. DUNCAN, on leave, had the record of his vote on
bers doing the business, to transact which 240 had been the motion to lay the motion to reconsider the vote on the sent! Nor was there a quorum in the Senate, either; and sub-Treasury bill this day, changed from the affirmative on a hill like this! at a distress session, too! He could not to the negative.
consent to it. Mr. CURTIS mado another unsuccessful attempt to pre Mr. HOWARD moved that the House non-concur with vail on the House to go into Committee of the Whole on the Senate in its proposed amendment, with a view to a the New York fire relief bill.
conference between the two Houses. THE DEPOSITE BANK ADJUSTMENT BILL,
Mr. LEWIS remarked that there was neither a quorum
in the Senate nor in the House. AS AMENDED.
Mr. ADAMS sid, the House can neither concur nor The Senate, having concurred in the amendment pro
It was then Sunday morning, he observed, posed by the House to this bill, proposed a further amend and he would move that the House adjourn. But he withment, declaring that the default referred to in the bill shall held this motion until the question on concurring was put, be understood to be a failure of any of the deposite banks when it appeared (by a count of tellers) that there was no to pay the drafts of the Treasury; and that such bank be
quorum present, 61 voting in the affirmative, and 22 in the charged six per centum per annum interest on such drafts negative. for the time of default.
Mr. McKIM moved that the House do now adjourn. Messrs. McKAY, POPE, and GRAVES, made a few Mr. WISE. Let us see who the members are who do remarks upon the proposed amendment; and
not choose to adjourn under these circumstances. I call for Mr. LOOMIS, of Ohio, moved to lay the whole bill on the yeas and nays. the table; which motion was lost.
The yeas ani nays were ordered ; and the vote stood : Mr. GRAVES thought the amendment partial and op- | Yeas 38, nays 50. pressive in its provisions, and was making some remarks Mr. CAMBRELENG then said that it would be subto that effect, when be observed that he should suspend jecting the members present to too much inconvenience to them, until the Chair had finished his conversation with keep them here during the tedious process of a call of the another member.
House, so late at night. But, if the officers of the House The SPEAKER said it was usual for the Chair to an
do their duty, a quorum may be kept on Monday, when he swer such questions, in regard to the pending business, as hoped to see such an altendance as would result in the any member chose to come to the Speaker's table to pro transaction of the public business. pound ; that he was doing this then, and could not be ex Mr. THOMAS suggested that it was better to pass a vote pected to look intently on every gentleman who addresses of non-concurrence, which would leave this question just the House.
where it was, when many members went home, believing Mr. GRAVES thought the Chair could not attend to in that no further action would be had upon the bill before the dividual members of the House and to the business of the House. Chair at one and the same time.
Mr. HAYNES could not consent to do business with The SPEAKER called the gentleman to order; and the knowledge that there was no quorum present. Before
Mr. GRAVES proceeded with his remarks. He wished any question could be entertained, the presence of members the amendment proposed to be so modified as to be uniform must be compelled. in its application to all the deposite banks.
Mr. LEWIS. Let us have a call of the House, then, Mr. LOOMIS, of New York, reviewed the course the and compel the attendance of members. debate had originally taken upon the proposed amendments, Mr. ADAMS would not consent to act upon any quesand upon the different propositions, as made by himself and tion without a quorum. This will be considered as the others, and the action of the House upon the same. He price of the deposite postponement bill, passed this session thought the bill had better not pass in the form proposed by Congress; and a measure of too much importance to by the Senate, but should rather, for the present, be post. be acted upon in that state of the House. He would sit poned, and brought forward hereafter in a more digested there till Monday morning, if required, but he, for one, form. Mr. L. closed his remarks by moving to postpone would not do business with only eighty members present. the further consideration of the bill until the first Monday Mr. HAYNES said he was convinced nothing could in Decemher next.
be done that night, and he therefore would move an adMr. POPE said he had conceived that there were two
journment. objects for the convention of Congress at this session : the
This motion prevailed, without a division, and the House first was to relieve the mercantile distress of the country; adjourned, at half-past 1 o'clock on Sunday morning. and the second, to devise such means as would relieve the banks, and enable them to resume specie payments imme. diately. He was in favor of such action on this bill as
Monday, October 16. would accomplish the latter ohject most speedily.
DEPOSITE BANK ADJUSTMENT BILL. Mr. CAMBRELENG reminded the House that it was The House met at eight o'clock, and a quorum being then ten o'clock at night, and that the proposition before present, proceeded to business. them was the only one impeding their progress.
The question being on concurrence in the Senate's Several gentlemen expressed opinions favorable to im- amendment to the bill extending indulgence to the depusite mediate action on the annendment, and Mr. GRAVES banks, (Jeclaring the time at which payment of interest on hoped that the gentleman from New York (Mr. Loomis] balances due shall commence, viz. from the date of any would withdraw his motion; which suggestion was com default or neglect to pay any draft or requisition of the plied with by the latter.
Treasury,) The question being on concurrence with the Senate in Mr. HAYNES said a few words on the amendment in their amendments,
relation to its application only to banks which had been Mr. WISE called for a count, which was ordered, and delinquent. This excluded from the provisions of the bill it appeared that the House was without a quorum.
entirely those which had not been drawn upon at all. A motion being made to proceed with the consideration Mr. ADAMS spoke with warmth in opposition to the of the subject before the House,
bill and amendment. Its provisions having reference to
Oct. 16, 1837.)
Deposite Bank Adjustment Bill.
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the first section of the bill, would, in effect, apply not to gentleman from Georgia, (Mr. Dawson,) and a gentleman banks which were delinquent, but involved the absurdity from Missouri, at the very time it took place; and, I say of applying it only to banks which were not delinquent. further, that I take this amendment to be the consummaMr. A. said he had demonstrated this at a previous sitting, tion of that bargain. When it was proposed, in committo the conviction, he believed, of every one who had heard tee, that the bill to postpone the deposites should be laid him. The chairman of the Committee of Ways and aside until this bill for the relief of the banks should first Means had not so much as attempted to answer the argu be acted upon, the chairman of the committee did openly
And Mr. A. now declared, in the presence of this pledge himself, when resisting that arrangement, that those House, that if this bill was to go forth to the nation with banks shoulj be liberally dealt with: and here we have the that section in it, it would be a disgrace to our legislation. fulfilment of that pledge. The first section of the bill extended relief to those banks Mr. CAMBRELENG. Is it in order to refer, in the only which were not delinquent; and, as the amendinent House, to what passed in Committee of the Whole ? had reference to the same bauks, it would, in fact, have no The SPEAKER was replying, when Mr. Adams said operation at all, unless from a constructive power in the he hoped the chairman of the Committee of Ways and Secretary of the Treasury, and a fraudful application of it Means would not be suffered to put him down. He should to such banks as were delinquent. If the obstinate perse declare the disgraceful scene, whatever interest that gentleverance of the chairman of the Committee of Ways and man might have in shut ing his mouth. Means in forcing this bill through the House with this ob The CHAIR here pronounced it wholly out of order to vious absurdity on its face was to succeed, it shoulil not be refer, in the House, to what had been said or done in Comal least without opposition on the part of Mr. A. He would mittee of the Whole. read the first section once more, and would demonstrate, a Mr. ADAMS then said he would put a case, and would second time, that it had reference only to banks which were suppose that certain facts had transpired-not here, but in not delinquent. Let the chairman, cried Mr. A., answer another legislature-in the moon, if gentlemen pleased. me, if he can. [Mr. A. here read the section referred to.) He then repeated what he had before stated as to ihe hisWhat a power, said he, is here given to the Secretary of tory of the amendments to the bill. When the amend. the Treasury! The power of selecting and discriminating ments were still pending, the objections all urged, and between bank and bank, at his pleasure; of refusing to ap none of them answered, the bill had been laid aside, other ply the benefits of the act to any bank he chose ; for, he bills had been taken up, when the committee rose and remight reply to its application for relief, “You have not ported progress on the whole. Immediately thereupon, it complied with the requisitions of the Department, and there had been moved by a member from Maine, that the Comfore you cannot be relieved.” While, when a similar ap miilee of the Whole he discharged from the further cine plication was made by another bank which he wished to sideration of this hill; the effect of which was to cut off the favor, he might pass over the matter in perfect silence and amendment of the gentleman from New York, (Mr. grant the request. It gave him the power of a double con- Loomis.] The amnendment of the gentleman from Louis. struction; and under that power he might select any bank iana (Mr. JohnSON) was then offered, and instantly on its he chose to ruin, and any other he chose to save, and ap adoption the chairman of the Committee of Ways and ply the one construction or the other as best suited his pur Means sprang to his feet and demanded the previous quespose. It carried either fraud or absurdity upon its face. tion, and the bill was thus passed almost by acclamation.
Mr. A. then went into a recapitulation of what had pass. Now the bill came back from the Senate with an amend. ed in the House on Saturday in relation to the bill, charac- ment, which would render the whole either a palpable abterizing the amendment offered by Mr. Loomis, of New surdity, or else an instrument of fraud. And this was the York, as proposing nothing but simple, rigorous, abstract way in which the business of this whole session had been
ustice to the States which had been injured by the post conducted—a session which had been called for the purpose. poneinent of the deposites, by requiring that the banks of of organizing an entirely new system of finance for the Those States which held large amounts of money which country. The House had sanctioned a series of ineasures would but for that postponement have gone to other States, all tending to this ohject; but the most pernicious and cruel should pay legal interest for its use. The subsequent of them all had, be thanked God, been laid upon the table. amendment offered by Mr. Johnson, of Louisiana, he refer- At least a respite had thus been afforded to the nation, a red to as a consummation of the bargain which, he said, had breathing spell, before it had imposed upon it that state of been, with so much decency, consummated in the face of servitude which the system, if successful, would not have the líouse between the chairman of the Committee of Ways failed to fasten upon it. He now said, openly, in the face and Means and certain gentleman from Louisiana, whose of the House, that, whenever objections, however strong, votes he wanted to pass his postponement bill.
had been urged against the ssstem of measures wbich had Mr. RICE GARLAND here interposed. Does the gen originated in the Treasury, with the exception of a few tleman refer to me?
paltry amendments proposed by the chairman of the Fi. Mr. AJIAMS. I refer to no individual whatever. nance Committee, that gentleman had no other recourse
Mr. R. GARLAND. Am I the gentleman from Louis- against them but to call upon his party to “ toe the mark;" iana referred to ?
that had been his answer, and his whole answer, to every Mr. ADAMS. I did not allude to him more than to argument. That had been the history of the session. The other gentlemen coming from those States where this money chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means, the minlies. I had no particular reference to one of them more ister of the Executive, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, than to another.
who was here to carry into effect the rescripts of the TreasMr. CHAPMAN. I am the only other member from ury Department, had no other answer to any objections, Louisiana. I made no bargain of any sort about the mat either in gross or in detail, than this cry of “ toe the mark,"
I have been no devoted friend to the measure from Mr. A. had asked of him what part of this bill applied to its inception to its consummativn. The gentleman, there- delinquent banks ? What it was that by the bill the Unifore, cannot refer to me.
ted States gave up? And he had been utterly unable to Mr. ADAMS. I did not allude to that gentleman-far answer ; yet, from his official situation, it was his place to from it. I am fully aware that he preferred that the bill answer inquiries put to him in relation to the public measshould not pass. I would to God that all the gentlemen ures he brought forward. His only reply had been to get coming from the States most interested could say the the bill laid aside, to consummate his bargain, and then to
I repeat that the bargain was pointed out by the call the previous question. Such had been his course
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Deposite Bank Adjustment Bill.
[Oct. 16, 1837.
throughout; and Mr. A. could not suffer the session to a council in the moon, I should consider the gentleman come to a close without exposing and denouncing it to the himself as very fit to be a member of such a council. country. Had the system originated in Heaven, (which I Jemand the previous question. seemed to be the very contrary place to that in which it Mr. LINCOLN here nioved to lay the bill and amenddid originate,) questions of a relovant nature, and properly ment on the table. And, as by the rules, this question presented, might be asked of him who brought it into the takes precedence, the question was put upon laying on the House; and it was his official duty to respond to them, table. and to give his reasons, if any he had; but nothing of this Mr. RICE GARLAND hoped the motion would be had been done at all. He had got the deposite postpone withdrawn, that he might have an opportunity of replying ment bill passed, after attempting to force it through the to the very unjustifiable attack made by the gentleman from House in its original form, by admitting the minimum Massachusetts upon the members from Louisiana. amendinents, and excluding every other.
Mr. LINCOLN declined; and the question was thereThe CHAIR here admonished Mr. A. that the deposite upon put to the House, and decided in the negative bill could nut now be discussed; it was not before the House, The call for the previous question was seconded : Ayes
Mr. ADAMS. I consider each and all of these bills as 87, noes 37. part and parcel of one system, and therefore
The previous question was agreed to: Ayes 92, noes 32. The SPEAKER. This is a question of concurrence The rain question, on concurring with the Senate in with the ame nt of th ena to a different bill. It their amendment to the bill, (as above stated,) was then has no connexion with the deposite law; and it is out of put, and carried by yeas and nays, as follows: order to discuss that law at this time.
YEA5-Messrs. Alexander, Heman Allen, John W. Mr. ADAMS. Does the SPEAKER deny that these meas Allen, Anderson, Andrews, Atherton, Aycrigg, Beatty, ures constitute one system? Does he decide that this bill Beirne, Bell, Bicknell, Biddle, Birdsall, Boon, Bouldin, and amendment are not part of that systein ?
Brodhead, Bronson, Bruyn, Cambreleng, John Campbell, The SPEAKER. 'The Chain is not called to decide Casey, Chambers, Cilley, Claiborne, Clark, Cleveland, that question. This is not the deposite bill. And the de- Coles, Conner, Corwin, Crockett, Cushing, Cushman, posite bill cannot now be discussed.
Davee, De Graff, Duncan, Dunn, Ewing, Foster, GalMr. ADAMS. I was not discussing the deposito bill. I lup, James Garland, Gholson, Goode, William Graham, was connecting the other measure with that now before the Grant, Graves, Griffin, Hamer, Harlan, Harrison, Harper, House. I was showing its connexion with this bill and Hawkins, Herod, Hoffman, Hopkins, Howard, Hubley, amendment. They are so connected that they cannot be Jabez Jackson, Jenifer, Kilgore, Lewis, A. W. Loomis, separated; and I was deriving an argument against con. Maury, Maxwell, McKay, Robert McClellan, Abraham curring in this amendment from external objects, and the McClellan, McKim, Menesee, Miller, Montgomery, Moranti-deposite law among others.
gan, Matthias Morris, S. W. Morris, C. Morris, MuhThe SPEAKER here said that, if it was the object of lenberg, Murray, Noble, Ogle, Palmer, Parker, Parthe gentleman to connect it with the present subject, and menter, Patton, Plumer, Pope, Pratt, Prentiss, Reily, there could be shown to exist such a connexion, it would Ridgway, Rives, Romsey, Shields, Sheplor, Southgate, be in order to introduce it; but the Chair could perceive Spencer, Stewart, Stone, Taylor, Thomas, Titus, Toland, no connexion. He would leave it to the judgment of the Turney, Vail, Webster, A. . White, E. Whittlesey, c. gentleman from Massachusetts.
H. Williams, Yell— 107, Mr. CAMBRELENG said he did not hear the decision NAY6—Messrs. Adams, Bond, William B. Calhoun, of the Chair. If the gentleman from Massachusetts was W. B. Campbell, W. B. Carter, Chapman, Cheatham, out of order, he hoped he would not be permitted to pro- Curtis, Davies, Dennis, Edwards, Everett, R. Fletcher, ceed.
Fillmore, Rice Garland, James Graham, Grennell, HasMr. ADAMS. Well, since what I was saying is so ex tings, Haynes, Henry, Holsey, Robert M. T. Hunter, ceedingly disagreeable to the chairman of the Committee Lawler, Lincoln, A. Loomis, Marvin, Mercer, Naylor, of Ways and Means, and apparently to the SPEAKER of Patterson, Peck, Phillips, Potts, Reed, Russell, C. Shepard, this House, I will sit down.
Sibley, Snyder, Stanly, Stratton, Taliaferro, Tillinghast, The SPEAKER. It is not disagreeable to the SPEAKER. Underwood, Lewis Williams, Joseph L. Williams, Wise, He has no desire to interrupt the gentleman from Massa - Yürke-46. chusetts; but the Chair must discharge its official duty. [This decision completed the passage of the bill through
Mr. ADAMS. I have no doubt of the disposition of the poth Houses. ] SPEAKER to discharge his duty “as he understands it;"
[Note.--In explanation of the part Mr. Adams took but, unfortunately for me, the SPEAKER understands it in in the above debate, he addressed the following note to the a different way from what I do.
Editors:] Mr. CAMBRELENG rose to order. When a member
Note by Mr. Adams. was called to order by the Chair, and was manifestly out
Immediately after Mr. ADAMS concluded, Mr. CAMBRELENG moved of order, and was ordered to take his séat, was it not his the Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union to lay aside this duty, under the rules of the House, to take his geat ? and bill, without taking the question upon either of the amendments pro
posed by Mr. LOOMIS, of New York, or by Mr. JOHNSON, of Louisiana, could he again proceed without the leave of the House ?
the general appropriation bill. This was accordingly The SPEAKER said that, when a member was so re done. That bill was debated between two and three hours, and Mr. peatedly out of order as to be directed by the Chair to take ported, and the chairman [ Mr. Howard] added that the committee
CAMBRBLENG moved it should be reported to the House. It was so rehis seat, the rule was as the gentleman from New York had stated. But, in the case of the gentleman from Mas-deposite banks under consideration, and had come to no resolution
thereon. The appropriation bill was then debated, amended, and sachusetts, the Chair had abstained from interposing by passed in the House. Just before the House went into Committee of an absolute command, as he was empowered by the rules the whole on the State of the Union again, Mr. Smith, of Maine, a to do. And the gentleman was, therefore, at liberty to
member of the Committee of Ways and Means, moved to discharge
the Committee of the Whole from the further consideration of the bill proceed if he confined himself to the subject before the for adjusting the balances of the banks. This movement had the effect House.
of seitling all further debate in committee, not only on the bill, but on Mr. ADAMS. Out of tenderness to the chairman of
the amendments proposed by Mr. JOHNSON and by Mr. Loomis. It
was made by Mr. Smith, doubtless because Mr. CAMBRELENG was the Committee of Ways and Means, I will say no more. aware that, if made by him, it would have been opposed: the comMr. CAMBRELENG. All I shall say in reply is, that
mitte having laken no order upon the proposed amendments. The motion of Mr. SMITH,
probably not understod by the House, passed as that gentleman has referred, in his supposititious case, to without opposition. The House went again into Committee of the
and to take
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and remarked, that it would not only be very useful to be Mr. CAMBRELENG then rose and drew the attention deposited in the library, but, as a statistical work, was ab. of the House to a very valuable work that had been pub- solutely indispensable as a book of reference. He, therelished, containing all the Treasury reports on the subject fore, asked leave to submit a resolution for the purchase of of the finances, from the year 1789 to the present time, three hundred copies of the said work, at a price not ex
Whole on the state of the Union; reported, without delale, a bill ap- days in the history of this country, and chiefly memorable as charac. propriating one million six hundred thousand dollars for the suppres. teristic examples of the means to be used by this incipient adminission of Indian hostilities. The House passed it with equal expedition ; tration to influence legislative action. The States, by Executive and then the bill for sellling the balances of the banks was called up agency, had already been divided into two classes, of deblor and again. Mr. Johnson furth with presented his amendment, which was creditor, and now the creditor Slates were to be deprived of their Lo strike out four, six, and nine months, the time allowed by the bill fourth instalınent by the votes of the members from the debtor Slales. as it carne from the Senate, and insert the Ist of July, 1838, the 1st of The debate of the 29th September has never been fully reported. January and 1st of July, 1839, for the lines of payment by the banks The speeches of Mr. Dawson, of Georgia, and of Mr. Samson MASON, of their balances. This amendinent was at once adopied, and Mr. of Ohiv, signalizing the bargain at the very moment when it was conCAMBRELENG instantly moved the previous question, thereby depriv. cluded in ihe face of the House, have been suppressed. ing Mr. Loomis of the opportunity of moving his amendment in the The bill to pastpone, till further order of Congress, that is, forever, House; which amenilment was, that the banks should pay interest al the fourth instalment of the deposite, as it came from the Senate, had the rate of four per cent. per annum upon all balances remainini in been forced to the third reading by a vote of 119 10 117. This voie depusite with them. By this series of manteuvres, the promise made had been reconsidered at the motion of Mr. Pickers, of South Caroby Mr. CAMBRELENG Lo the members of the debtor States, when the lina, to let in an amendment proposed by him, limiting the postponepostponemenı bill was laboring on its passage, that if that bill should ment to the 1st of January, 1839, which was found indispensable to pass, a liberal indulgence would be extended wo iheir banks, was secure the passage of the bill. It had then, by the application of the faithfully, as to theni, performed. The bill was thus driven through previous question, been again forced to the third reading by the meager the House, with the time for seliling the balances of the banks extend majority of 118 to 106 votes. ed, and without even requiring interest of them for the time of defal. Mc. GARLAND, of Louisiana, then moved that the further consideracation. The manner in which Mr. ARPHAXED Loomis's amendment lion of that bill should be postponed to the ensuing Tuesday, lo lake was ertruded from the consideration of the House was peculiarly re up, in the meantime, and pass the bill for adjusting the balances with markable. The bill soon came back from the Senate, agreeing to the the delinquent banks, on the avowed plea that the bill ought not to be amendment of the House, (extending the time for seulement,) with an permiueil to pass lill the banks of the debtor Slates should have the amendment, as follows:
pledge of a longer indulgence of time than they would have by the "And the default mentioned in this acl, on which interest is 10 settlement bill, as it had come from the Senate. commence at the rate of six per cent. shall be underswod to be the ne Mr. CAMBRELENG opposed the motion of Mr. GARLAND to postpone glect or omission of suid banks, or any of them, lv answer the drafts or the postponement will, but gave the pledge, for himself, lo deal as gen. requisitions of the Secretary of the Treasury, made on thein according eruusly with those banks as circunstances would admit; for, though wthe provisions of the first section of this acı."
no frieni 10 lhe banks, yet he was willing to afford them every indul When this amendinent came back to the House, it was near mid gence for the sake of the people who were indebted to them. night, anıl there was no quoruin of the House present. Mr. Howard, So says the report of his remarks in the Globe, very prudently con. of Maryland, inoved that ihe House should non-concur with the amend densing in a few words what was much more largely said in the House. ment of the Senate, with a view to a conference between the two The Globe adds: “ Mr. Dawson and Mr. Mason, of Ohio, designated Houses. Tlie question was taken on Mr. Howard's motion, when this as a bargain between the two gentlemen," and inade some stric. there appeared 6 for non-concurring, and 22 against il. No quorum. lures thereon, and then again very prudently suppresses those striclues. Mr. THOMAS, of Maryland, otserving that, as it appeared from the Mr. Dawson and Mr. Mason did not designate it as a burgain bevole just taken, that ihere was a large majority of the members pres. tween th two gentlemen. They designated it as a bargain lendered eni, and a majority of a quorum for non-concurring with the amend. by the chairman of the Commillee of Ways and Means to the mem. went of the Senate, a vote should now be taken, and if a majority of a bers from the States of the most deeply indebied banks, of longer in. quorum should vote for non-concurrence, it should be considered as a dulgence of time to those banks as an equivalent for the votes of those vole of the House, and it would leave this question just where it was members to postpone the payment of the fourth instalment lo iba betore many of the inembers had witidrawn from the Hjuse.
creditor States. To this Mr. ADAMS olijected; and, at vne o'clock, Sunday morning, That this was the phenomenon designated by Mr. Dawson and Mr. moved to adjourn, which a majority of the members present refused. MASON ; and that it was the bargaini aciually concluded, any one The same motion was afterwarus made by another member, and the muy perceive who will read the remarks of Mr. GHOLSON, of Missisquestion being taken by yeas and nays, there appeared 38 for, and 30 sippi, which are reported al full length, and very correctly, in the against adjournment.
Globe. No one can doubt of the bargain, after reading liem. A call of the House was moved, but it was apparent that in less than But the consummation of the bargain was accomplished on Saturday four hours a quorum could not have been cllected; and, al a quarter evening, the 14th of October. The deposite postponement bill hail tipfure iwo in ihe morning, the House adjourned lo nieet again at eight been sledge-hammered through the House, by the previous question o'clock Monday inorning.
and the voues of ineinbers from the debtor States, on the 29th of Sop: Al that time the rules prescribing the order of business were sus. lember. The promised equivalent of every indulgence to the debtor pended at the motion of Mr. CAMBRELENG. The House look up the State banks was to be granted on the 14th of October; and it was amendment of the Senate; and instead of the question moved by Mr. dune. "The dexterous discharge of the Committee of the Whole on HOWARD on Saturday night, that the House should non-concur with the state of the Union from the consideration of the bank seillement that acendment, and upon which the vole liad stood 61 to 2.2, and upon bill, while the amendments of Mr. JOHNSON, of Louisiana, and of Mr. which Mr. Thomas had urged that a majority of a quorum had voted Loomis, of New York, were pending; the adroitness with which the wo non-concur-instead of this, the motion now substituted was lo con. amendment of Mr. JOHNSON, of Louisiana, was then squcezed into the cur with the amendment of the Senate.
House, and the instantaneous start of the previous question, lo cut off Mr. ADAMS repeated his objections to the bill; to the promise male the amendment proposed by Mr. Loomis, of New York, were exem. hy the chairman of the Commillee of Ways and Means, on the 29th of plary specimens of legislative legerdemain. And, although the fina! September, at the passage of the deposite postponement will, that fur. amendment of the Senate somewliet discomposed the desperate fidelity ther indulgence should be extended to the delinquent banks, if the of the chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means to the redemp. postponement bill should pass; and to the indecent inanner, as he tion of his pleuge, you that untoward event was not fairly imputable to ihought, in which that promise was p rformed by the proceelings on hiin. If he could have kept a quorum together on Satunlay night, be Saturday night. While making these objections, Mr. A. was repeat. would have non-concurred ine amendment, and then, at a conference, edly called to order by the chairman of the Cominittee of Ways and the Senate would have receded from it. But Monday morning it was Meang, for referring to what hall passed in Committee of the Whole, toj late. If he had non concurred then, his quorum might have chanced and the SPEAKER twice decided that the deposite prostponement bill, to slip from under him while he was holding his conference with the 11 being now before the House, could not be discussed at this time. Senate, and so he was obliged to call upon his majority of a quoruin to Two members from the cleblor Slates, Mr. GARLAND, of Louisiana, and toe the mark again. Right about face, and vole lo concur in that Mr. CHAPMAN, of Alabama, called upon Mr. ADAMS to say whether, amendmeni, which on Saturday night they had stubbornly voted 10 by charying the chairman of the Commillee of Ways and Means will non concur. a largain of further iwulgence to the delinquent banks, he meant to If the chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means could get allude to them. Mr. A disclaimed all intention of alluding to any over his a version to a (liscussion upon nouns, pronouns, verbs and ad. individual. He considered the promise of the chairman of the Conj. verbs, he might find an edifying text for a lecture upon the literary mittee of Ways and Means as a pledge given to the members of ihe composition of statute law, in his act for the aıljustment of the bank deblor States to purchase their votes for the postponement bill; and balances, as it now stands among the rolls of the Department of State, the transactions of Saturday night as a redemplion of that pledge. signed by the Vice President of the United States and President of the Mr. GARLAND earnestly entreated the House lo permit him to answer Senate, and by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, and ap. what he considered as a most unjustifiable allack of Mr. ADAMS upon proved by the President of the United States. Besides the absuruiiy the meinbers from Louisiana, but the House, that is, the majority, in the first section, pointed out by Mr. A., of providing a relief for de. would not listen to him. Nothing was more remote from Mr. A's in linquent banks, by an exclusive application of it lo lanks not drlin. Lentions than an attack upon the members from Louisiana, both of quent; banks which have met and shall hereafter meet all the rewhoin he highly and sincerely respects and esteems. He deeply re. quisitions of the Department: besides this, the last anendment of the greued that the House refused to hear Mr. GARLAND, not only becanso Senate has got stowed away in a wrong place. It should have been it was Mr. GARLAND's desire to be heard, but because he knew that added to the end of the biil, for it evidently refers 10 the last clause of is the House would hear him, it would give Mr. A. the right and the the bill; bul as it was presented by the Senate as an amendment to an opportunity, in reply, lo unid, at full length, the two transactions of amendment of the House, inserted in the body of the vill, the engrossthe evenings of the 29th of Sepiember, and of the 11th of October-of ing clerks seem to have thought that an amendment to an amendment the pledge given, and the pledge redeemed. Those were memorable must holii iis location with the amendinent itsell, and could not be trans.