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Committee was to take his Majesty's Message into considerniion, ar.d then every Gentleman would take what share lie plcafWl in the discufbon.

The cji'f slion being pot and carried, the House resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House. Mr. Steele, in the chair, having read his Majesty's Message,

•J7t C :n:Akr of tie Exchequer said, that the object recomfriended in his Majesty's Message had already been the subject of some observation that day. He was persuaded that if he Could completely separate one part of the subject from the other, as he thought eventually he must; do, in the vote he should propose, he would meet the unanimous wish of the House. Upon one part of it he flatteredjbjmfclf there would hardly be a difference of sentiment •, as the'{*r«£ral object was fine in which they were all united. He was persuaded, while he looked1 at the power of the public purse, and while he considered thathev.-rs to apply for an establishment to be settled on the Prince (,f Wales, af ter the happy event of his union with a lYmcesj i;s the Mouse of Brunswick; when he reflect-" ed on the blessings the nation had continued to enjoy under that illirllrious familv, of which this Princess was a branch, that there was but one general sentiment felt by Englishmen, . and that they would be unanimous in their determination to support the dignity and splendour of the Prince and his Royal consort. This was a disposition which would arise out of the sentiment, he had almost said the instinct, of the people of this country, and he was assured, that any application that was made to support the splendour of the House of Brunswick would never be unsuccessful. That House had on every occasion shewn its readiness to protect the principles of true liberty, and to have always in view the real happiness of irs subjects. He mult lay it down as a general ground resulting from reflection on the history of past ages, as well as from a consideration of many recent circumstances, that in tiic d .yi in which they lived, it was the immediate inlere-sV os every description os the people to support the strength, to maintain the heivaur and necessary dignity and splendour, not only of the British monarchy, but also os every branch of the Royal Family. "What we gave to them for these purpose', *re gave in reality to ourselves. This he did not mean to be done by a profligate waste of the public treasure, but by a prudent use of ir; and in allowing an handsome flia?e of the property of the nation for such a purpose, they had always been amply repaid by the security it gave them for a continuance of those blessrrw they enjoyed under that system of government, the centre os which was monarchy—a system,

which, which, notwithstanding all the idle theories of modem pretenders, and all the attempts that had been made to bring it into disrepute, comprised in it all that they had seen, not only os dignity and force, but also of protection to Jiberty, anil every tiling that could be esteemed most valuable in a well-regulated (late. These were considerations which, he was sure, would guide the vote of the House; on the question of the establishment to be made for their Royal Highnesses the Prince and Princess of Wales.

If that were the only question to be brought before the House, he fliould have confined the vote which he had to propose to what, according to his view of the subject, came distinctly within that principle. But, while he was aware of that being defircable, he was bound in candour to lay that he had other topics to bring forward much less agreeable to his own, feelings. These topics, however, he fliould keep as separate and distinct as possible from the other question. For that reason lie should not that d.:y propose any provision to bu voted for the discharge os the incumbranecs of his Royal Highness. It was his duty however to state the circumstances of these incumbranecs. He wished to God he could do otherwise. It would be more to his satisfaction, more to the satisfaction pf every man in that House, and he believed more to the satisfaction of every man in this country, that the part to which !ic alluded could have been avoided ; but since it unfortunately existed, the same sentiments which their duty and their inclination led them to agree to support the splendour of the Throne by an establishment, led them all to wish that incumbranecs fliould not be permitted to assect its credit; and however they might lament it, yet their loyalty to the Throne, and their regard for its interests, which was inseparable from then? own, called upon-them to look at these incumbrances, and to fee that they Ihould not assect too deeply the cafe of the Heir Apparent.

He proceeded fro state his own view of the whole subject) and each of its branches in its order. First, as to the happy event of the marriage of his Royal Highness, which met the wiiiies of all the Members of the House, and on Which they had already expressed their joy, in consequence there must be an additional establishment. Next came to be defrayed the, expence attending the ceremony of the marriage, and then the expence of completing the building os Carlton House, as a residence for their Royal Highnesses, With respect to the expence of the marriage, or of the furnishing and building of Catlton -House, they would not be objects for the present Coninjittee, and therefore he fliould not propose any resolution unon

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that subject. The only object before them was, a grant of a sum ot money for the establishment, as bad been done in a former instance, and a jointure t* her R 'yal Highness. This being opened to t!:<- Committee, he should proceed to the incumbrances of the Pnnce, and to state the principle on which he rested the whole proceeding. Whatever might be the amount of the vote of the House for the establishment, he was clearly of opinion That some measure should be adopted to relieve his Royal Highness from his present embarrassment. He did not nevertheless mean to call on the present Committee to consider the extent of these incumbrances- The first point, and the only one he intended to propose a vote for in the motion with which he should conclude, was that of an establishment for the Prince and his illustrious consort. In considering this, he desired the Committee to ask themselves what they thought they ought to grant to their Royal Highnesses in their present situation. The income of the Prince was already 6o,oool. a year, exclusive of the Dutchy os Cornwall, the produce and revenues of which amounted to about 13 oool. per annum.—It was difficult to form a precise calculation on the expence which necessarily attends the dignity of the Heir Apparent to theThrone,but in forming their thoughts upon that subject, it was natural to look back on what had been allowed to.soimer Princes of Wales. Fifty years ago, the present Prince's grandfather possessed a net income of Ioc,joo1. per annum, in addition to the Dutchy of Cornwall. Lighty years a<;o, his great-grandfather, the then Prince of Wales, possessed ioo,oco!. without the Dutchy of Cornwall. If '.Gentlemen would loi.k at these establishments, they would fee that his present Royal Highness ought to have a CO'■ suitable addition to his income, c-.-n supposing that he was not at all incumbered with debt. Let the Committee therefore consider what they thought was absolutely necessity for him; and in considering this they would naturally reflect on the great difference in the price of nil the articles of lite; they must be aware that the expences of evtry description of men, from the highest to the lowest, ware much advanced; they wuld in consequence find that neither luxury, dignity, or evert case or comfoit could be at present procured, in a degree adequ.iie to what had been en j* yed in the times he had alluded to wi'hcut an advance in the income, to at least a fourth of the whole. It he erred in his calculation, it was from being rather below t'-an abo'. the mark. He therefore proposed) that the income of I s Rowil H'ghncss should be 129,000!. per annum, exclusive of th' Dutchy os Cornwall, which was 25,000!. a ye.'.r nicTe than was -enjoyed 50 years ago. He trfought he might rest there that part of the question; for surely this was not more

thus than the Committee would be disposed to allow to a Prince of Wnles on the event of marriage, which they a!l approved of, and rejoiced in. This behig the only vote he had to propose, the rest he should only slate in the nature of a notice, os what regulations were intended to be made hereafter. The preparations for the marriage would be about 27,000!. or 28,oool. for jewels and plate, which greatly exceeded the expence, but the excess would go to the outstanding debts; and 25,000!. for finishing Carlton House, the accounts of which were laid upon the table, and they might be brought into discussion when the whole amount os the debts should come before them for their distinct consideration. , The jointure of the Princess of Wales he proposed to be 50,000!. a year, being no more than had been granted on a similar occasion

This was all he thought necessary to fay on the first branch of the subject; but although lie meant to propose nothing more at present, lie would state to the Committee the amount of the debts of his Royal Highness, which was between 600,000!, and 700,0001. according to the most accurate accounts he had had an opportunity of seeing; to speak more precisely, they were according to these accounts from 620,0001. to 630,0001. up to the last April quarter. He had no reason to suppose that there existed any other debts of his Royal Highness, where, he it the principal debtor. There were some in which he was security for his illustrious brothers. Me had the satisfaction to state to the Committee, that from the meritorious exertions of these two illustrious characters, such debts were put into a train of liquidation, and in a course of punctual discharge, that he had 110 reaion to apprehend they would become 4 burden to them or to the Public, and therefore he did not consider these as any part of the debts of his Royal Highness for which it would be necessary to make any legislative provision, as they were provided lor already by the laudable determination of their Royal Highnesses. The future consideration of the House would be, whether the debts of his Royal Highness were brought into a shape aud mode that would enable them to form .some plan with a -view of freeing Jiis Royal Highness from the present effect of his incumbrances. "When they fliould be so, the House would have to consider of the mode of relieving him; that was not however the subject Of that night's discussion, and before he stated an opinion upon that topic, he was desirous of collecting the fense of the House as to the mode of proceeding. He was convinced that, before the House should take any step towards the liquidation of these debts, they would feel that they ought to be clearly stated for accurate investigation, both with regard to their i.- . nature nature and extent. He proposed a Secret Committee of the House for that purpose. But if it was the desire of any considerable number of Members of the House that the whole thou hi afterwards be submitted to a Committee of the whole House, he saw no objection to it; at the same time he (hould submit to the Hcuse the impression which that part of the subject made upon him. lie did not conceive it would be possible 'that the inquiry of a Cofiimittee could be finally sufficient for all purposes; because, if there was to be an examination into these debts in detail for the purpose of proving that many of them will acri.iit of no defalcation, then there mult be a general inquiry, and an inquiry in detail, and that could not be brought within the compass of the present session, la that view of the subject, nothing but a Committee armed with Parliamentary power, to examine upon oath all evidences necessary to substantiate any claims, would be satisfactory to the House or to the Public, and therefore it was clear there must in that event be some legislative provision upon the subject. If any considerable number of Gentlemen wished, nevertheless, to have a Secret Committee as a preliminary step, he was far from having any objection, but he wished to have that point settled one way or other, or both ; "for on the determination of it would rest the mode which he fliould propose for the liquidation of the debts. Whatever mode fliould be adopted, it was necessary that regard fliould be had to a provision against contracting debts in future; this was necessary, as well from affection to every branch of the Royal Family, as from atten* tion to the interests of the Public; and he trusted there would be found no man in that House, who would seel that he had discharged his duty to the Public, or to what he felt to be the general interest of the Royal Family, if he gave his Royal Highness an additional income, and should shut his eyes to the effect of these incumbranecs. They would desert the material part that was to the splendour of the Heir Apparent, and to the interests of the country at large, if they left his Royal Highness insecure from what he must be exposed to in consequence of liis incumbranecs; for whatever the libera!:ty of Parliament might be, whatever sacrifices his Royal Highness might be disposed to make, they could not be effectual without the assistance of a positive legislative' provision as to the mode ol liquidating the debts.—The next consideration, was as to the mode in which this provision was' made. Would the House say they would leave his Royal Highness to arrange these things after they had granted him the additional ■allowance ? .Upon that point he confessed he was not prepared to go that length. The cafe was so unfcr:unately circumstanced,

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