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General Smith moved, " That an humble Address be presented to his Majesty, praying that his Majesty would be graciously pleased to direct that the monument to the memory of Captain Faulknor should be erected in the cathedral church of St. Paul, London, instead of the collegiate church of St. Peter, Westminster."—Agreed to new. con.
NUMBER OF TROOPS IN GREAT BRITAIN.
General Macleod moved for a return of the number of troops in Great Britain. He anticipated one objection to his motion, namely, that such a return would have the effect to give information to the enemy. But he was assured, that the enemy were already in possession of more accurate information on the subject, than even the Members of that House.
'The Secretary at War said, that the Hon. Gentleman had certainly anticipated the objection which he meant to have' made. Such a motion as he had now proposed, was by no means common in time of war.
. Colonel Maitland said, that he supposed the object of his Hon. Friend in bringing forward the motion, was to apprise tiie people of Great Britain of the extent of the burden which they had to bear. He hoped, however, that he would withdraw it for the present, in order to bring it forward in a more confined shape.
General Macleod said, that as he had moved only for a return of the number of the troops, and not for any information with respect either to their station or the manner in which they were to be employed, he had hoped there would have been no objection to hi* motion.
'The Secretary at War still persisted irt his objections.
Mr. Fox said, that the motion was highly proper, both in a political and economical point of view. He adduced several instances in the American was, in which such motions had been made, and had always been granted.
The motion was negatived*
The House having resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House upon the Bill for the relief of Innkeepers }
The Secretary at War said, that in reality he did not see why originally innkeepers should have been the objects on whom soldiers ought to be billeted more than other people; but as things were so settled, ami the charges of innholdefs made on their guests were proportioned to the burden they were made to bear before the war, he thought thr.t what happened before the commencement of hostilities ought not to be taken into consideration.
The grievances they had to complain of were when troops •were stationed in quarters, by which they allege they lose each day three-pence per man; another loss also arose to them from the horses; and a third from troops on march, at which time they are obliged to furnish them with provisions at the rate of sixpence for each dragoon, and sixpence for the horse* and four-pence for every foot soldier—However, as many burracks had been lately erected, it was a great set-oft" to their losses, which was a matter worthy the observation of the Committee. He would therefore propose, after forming a just estimate of what they might probably lose, where they stated their loss to bs one shilling, to allow them sixpe ice; where ten-pence, to allow them live-pence 5 and where threepence, to allow them two-pence.
There was also a matter which he wished to correct, namely, the privilege of recruits remaining in free quarters seven days after their being inlisted. It had been often the cafe that recruiting parties had shifted their quarters, and availed themselves, to the great detriment of the innholders, of this privilege. Hj would therefore propose, that a smaller number os days or free quarters should be allowed them.
Mr. Plainer objected to that clause which limited the duration os the Act to the end of the war; he thought that from the marching and counter-marching of troops after the war, it should continue at least a year longer, as many inconveniences must arise to innholders from this circumstance.
A long and desultory conversation then ensued between Mr. Hxtjsiy, Mr. Baker, aud the Secretary at War, on one of the clauses of the Bill, when
Captain Berkeley proposed the introduction os two ciiuses, the first purporting an exemption of the benefits arising from the Bill to such innkeepers as might increase the price of posting; and the second, investing magistrates with a power, in cafe of au increase in the price of hay»oats, See. ot imposing an adequate price on posting.
A long conversation then ensued on this clause, in which Mr. Baler, Mr. Plainer, Air. HitfJ'ty, Captain Berkeley, General Smith, and Air. Bi'xton took a part; ;ister which C iptain Berkeley agreed to withdraw the clauses, promising at the lame time to introduce a Bill founded on the fame.
The House being resumed, the report of the Committee was ordered fur to-mono w..
RECAL RECAL OF THE LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND.
Mr. Jekyll gave notice, that from unforeseen circumstances, he could not with propriety submit his motion which stood for that day, respecting the recal of Earl Fitzw'dliam from the Viceroyship of Ireland. He would, with the leave of the House, defer it to Tuesday se'nnight.
The second reading of the Dead Body Bill was deferred to Wednesday.
The commitment of the Dutch Property Bill, and the third reading of the Insurance Bill, were deferred to next day. Adjourned;
HOUSE OF LORDS.
Friday, May i. ■»
Lard Gi cnville moved the Order of the Day, which was to take his Majesty's Message on the affairs of the Prince of Wales into consideration.
The Message being read,
Lord Grenviiie, in conformity to the notice he had given, rose for the purpose of moving an address to his Majesty. He reminded their Lordships of what he had said the preceding day, and declared he did not intend to enter into any detail on the present occasion, because that should be left to a suture opportunity. It was not proper, in his opinion, for their Lordships to come to any specihe resolution that might bind or pledge either the House or any one Noble Lord, for various reasons, one of which was obvious—he meant the practice of Parliament, by which it was understood that all legislative measures relating to public expences, should originate in the other House of Parliament. He hoped that what he had to propose would meet with the unanimous concurrence of the House; it was nothing more than an address in answer to his Majesty's most gracious Message in general terms, assuring his Majesty of what he was persuaded the breasts of all their Lordships felt, great respect for his Majesty and the Royal Family, and a with that they should have a provision suitable to their dignity. What measures should be taken to relieve his Royal Highness from his embarrassment, to prevent his being subjected to any sucli hereafter, or even what should be his establishment, were points for future consideration. He should, for the present, only move that an address be presented to his Majesty; the substance of which was to return his Majesty their Lordships '.hanks for his gracious communication : To assure his
Majesty of the interest their Lordships had in the happiness of his Majesty, and every branch of his illustrious family: That their Lordships will take the subject of his Majesty's gracious communication into their most serious consideration, and that they will be ready to concur in such measures as may be, under all the circumstances, thought necessary for making a provision for his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, &c. The Address being read, and the question put, The Earl of Gi/ildford said, he did not mean to oppose this Address. The Noble Secretary of Stite had so worded it, that it appeared to him to be perfectly unexceptionable, as it did not pledge Noble Lords to any measure whatever. The Noble Secretary of State had very properly kept out of the Address all those topics which might, perhaps, have prevented that unanimity which was so desireable on the occasion, and he hoped there would be but one sentiment upon it. He rose, however, even in that stage of the proceeding, to make an observation relative to the latter part of the Message, and say a few words upon it; his observation might perhaps be thought more fit to be made on a future day, when the subject should come more properly before them, but he thought it right to mention it. He had heard in many places of one idea of ad- ^ justing the object'of his Majesty's Message, which he was persuaded would be far from rendering it palatable, and he wished it to be made as palatable as possible. What he alluded to was an idea of exonerating the civil list, and throwing the burden on the people. Such a measure was unwise in itself, and was extremely painful even to be heard suggested. He hoped, whatever the plan adopted might be, care would be taken to leave the Prince of Wales perfectly free and unembarrassed. A proper provision was due to his high rank and exalted station; an income, which on account of the peculiar dearness of provisions and all the necessaries of life, ought far to exceed that allowetTto any former Piince of Wales. The Public were bound to make that provision for the Prince, not only as he was the heir apparent to the Throne, but on account of the amiable Princess who had been invited to this country, an invitation in which both Houses of Parliament by their addresses might be said to have concurred. With respect to the income of his Royal Highness, and the mode by which he was to be enabled to discharge his incumbrances, it did not appear to him to be very materi;il whether thev were to be discharged by a direct specific impost upon the Public, or out of'any share os the income to be settled on his Royal Highness. His Royal Highness should at nil events be placed in a situation, that would render any further application of this nature, to
Parliament, on his part, unnecessary, by there not being the smallest possibility for him to find himself again involved in the same difficulty. If they did not do that, the two Houses would do nothing, at least nothing to any purpose. He hoped also, that due regard lhould be had to the latter part of his Wajessy's Message, and that some legislative provision should be made, which would render it impossible for any future Prince of Wales to suppose he had an unlimited credit on the public purse. Having suggested this, he was happy to fay he concurred entirely in the present Address.
Lord Grenvillc felt great pleasure in hearing what had been expressed by the Noble Esti. He entirely coincided with him in opinion upon all the topics he had mentioned, most especially in the necessity and propriety os freeing the Prince from Ilis difficulties altogether. Whatever the measure proposed ipight be, considered as a measure os finance, it ought to be framed to that end; and he could allure the Noble Earl and the House, that when the matter, came to be discussed, it would be sound that in every measure in which he at least had any slure relating to it, the utmost caution would be used to prevent any of those inconveniences which the Noble Earl had alluded to. He assured their Lordships that he had no other reason for not entering more sully into the subject, than that this did not appear to him to be a fit season for tha^ purpose.
The Address was then agreed to ncm. dijs.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.
Friday, J\Iay i.
Proceeded on the private Bills before the House.
The report of the E.iu Brink Drainage Bill was brought up. On the quell ion that the Amendments be read a second time, the House divided:
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Majcrity 2S A division nlso too': place on the question that the Bill Uc recommitted, after which the doors were shut, and strangers, excluded.
Adjourned to Monday.