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156 PROCEEDINGS of the POLITICAL Club, &c. April to them we ought to leave the de- who favour the motion are never put termination ; therefore I hope this to prove an abuse: It has always been affair will be entirely dropt, and the deemed fufficient for them to shew, question put upon the clause now that the power is liable to be abused, before us, which, I think, has no- in order to induce the house to abolish thing to do with this affair ; for
that power, or to put it upon some whether the power which the colo. A such new establishment as may prenel has over the staff officers of his
vent, as much as pomble, its being any regiment, was made a good or a bad Jonger liable to be abused. For this use of upon any particular occasion, reason I do not think the complaint is not surely to determine ou: judg- now before us of any very great ima ment as to the continuance or abo.
portance to the principal question lition of that power, but whether under consideration ; but at the same it is a power that is necessary even B time I must declare against the prinin time of peace for preserving dif- ciple laid down, that this house is cipline in our army, and rendering never to take notice of the comit useful in time of war.
plaints made by the army, or by any If for these purposes, Sir, the con. man, or any sort of men, in the tinuance of this power be thought army. I hope both the officers and necessary, I am sure, we have no foldiers of the army are all subjects occasion to frighten ourselves with Cof Great-Britain ; and it is our duty the influence that staff officers may to take notice of every complaint have in elections ; for unless it be made to us by any British subject, in Westminster, I hardly believe unless upon the face of it, it appears there is any place in the kingdom to be frivolous or unjuft. Nay farwhere a staff officer has a vote for ther, as we are the great inqueft of members of parliament ; and in the nation, it is our duty to inquire Westminster, where there are foD diligently if any of the subjects of many thousand electors, surely the Great Britain be exposed to, or lavotes of three or four score serjeants bouring under any, and what oppres. can never be of any great weight in fions, and to take the most effec. either scale. To this I must add, tual method for procuring them re. Sir, that as a colonel's life as well as lief. character very often in time of war This, I say, Sir, is our duty, and depends upon the behaviour of his E I wish we would attend to this part tegiment, I believe, every colonel of our duty more frequently than we will chuse to have a regiment of do, especially with regard to that brave and well disciplined soldiers, part of the British subjects who serve tather than a regiment of voters at in our armies either by sea or land ; any election.
for they are by the nature of the
service more exposed to oppression, The lajt Speech I fall give you in F than any other part of his majesty's
this Dibate, was that made by subjects, and it is likewise much M. Ogulnius, the Purport of wbicb more dangerous for them to comwas as follows, viz.
plain. I am far from apprehending, Mr. Prefident,
Sir, that our giving ear to com
plaints, or inquiring into oppresŞIR,
sions, will ever bring parliaments inta BELIEVE every gentleman G contempt or detestation with any knows, that when a motion is
part of the people ; but if we enmade for repealing any law, or for tirely neglect this part of our duty, abolishing any power that has been
parliaments may become contempestablished by law or custom, those tible, and, on account of the taxes GO-104
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fon, why the common soldiers of the Let us consider, Sir, that a board British army face danger with more of general officers, or a general intrepidity, and with more alacrity, court-martial, must be appointed by G than the common soldiers of any na. an order from the crown, or the tion under the sun. Do not, there. commander in chief, when there is fore, let us encourage brutal officers, one appointed by the crown: When if any such there are, or should ever a commiffioned officer has been in. be in our army, to use the soldiers
PROCEEDINGS of the POLITICAL CLUB, &c. April ill, by laying it down as a maxim, London against ftockjobbing; and that the parliament must never in- every one knows what opposition he termeddle in any disputes or diffe- met with within doors, what re. rences, that happen in our army. proaches without, before he could
To refute this doctrine, Sir, which get that bill passed into a law. It is I thought of such dangerous conse- true, Sir, we have, thro' complaiquence, was the only end of my A fance, or for satisfying a filly popustanding up, and therefore I shall lar clamour, given our consent to not take up your time with giving several such bills ; but I hope we you my opinion upon any of the ftall at last put an end to this comother points now under our conside.. plaisance ; for I do not think there ration, but conclude with observing was ever a more ridiculous bill sent in general, that I shall always be up to us, than the bill now under jealous of a power, the exercise B consideration. whereof is trusted to the absolute There is no man, Sir, that more and arbitrary will of a single man; heartily wishes the improvement of nor do I think, that any such power the British fishery than I do : There can ever be necessary in time of is no man more sensible of the benepeace ; for tho’ in time of war such
fits that might accrue to this nation a power muft often be granted, yet by extending our fisheries, especially even then it ought to be as little C that of white herrings, upon the made use of as posible,
coasts of our own island, and there
is no man more forry than I am, The next Debate I shall give you, is that proper expedients have not been
one we had in our Club upon the found, for turning to the best adfamous Bill paffed last Sefion, in.
vantage, the spirit that at present titled, An Act for the Encourage prevails among the people for the ment of the British White Her- D improvement, or rather, I should say, ring Fishery ; which Debate was the introduction of that fithery. I epened by C. Claudius Nero, who, am from information, as well as ftuupon that Occafion, spoke in Sub- dy, fully apprised of the riches that fance thus :
might accrue to this nation from a Mr. President,
due improvement of that fishery, of
the numbers of poor people that SIR,
E might thereby be usefully employed, T is very furprising, that of all and above all, of the vast addition
the bills fent up to us of late that might thereby be made to the years from the other house for a. number of our seamen, which is the mending the law, improving trade, natural strength and the true glory of or removing any grievance publickly this kingdom ; therefore, I cannot complained of, most of them were but desire above all things to see this such as were apparently ineffectual F trade put upon a proper foundation ; for the end proposed, or such as and for this very reason I must be tended to introduce a greater griev. against the bill now under consideance than that they intended to re- ration ; because, from such regulamove. Such were their bills against tions, I am sure, we can meet with the ase of fpirituous liquors, their no success, and a failure in the atbills against vagabonds, and many tempt will throw such a damp upon others I could mention. In short, G the present laudable spirit, that it I can think but of one bill that has will not for many years be poslible to fully answered what was expected revive it. from it, which was that brought in Did we ever hear, did we ever by a worthy magiftrate of the city of read of a company, that carried on
E- of W- -a.
1751. PROCEEDINGS of the POLITICAL CLUB, &c. 159 a trade with any success, unless it trade, or lay it open to our own was to a place where none could people, and this put an end to the trade but themselves? Do not we trade of the company ; for their know, that in order to enable a present circumstances fhew, that they company with a joint stock to carry have never since carried on the trade on any trade, they must not only
with any advantage. have an exclusive privilege with re- A Our East-India company owed its gard to their own countrymen, but establishment to the same causes, it must be to fuch a place, or a trade and will, at last, I fear, Sir, have of such a nature, that they cannot the same fate with our African com. poffibly be rivalled by any foreigners? pany; for its trade will be at an end Is not the bill we but the other day as foon as it begins to be rivalled by agreed to, for extending and im. the private traders of other nations ; proving the trade to Africa, a me. B but thank God! our neighbours have lancholy proof of this truth? No all hitherto carried on that trade by trade had ever stronger arguments companies as we do. And as to the in favour of a company with a joint Soath-Sea company, they have neftock, than that trade had at the be. ver so much as once endeavoured to ginning : It was to be carried on
establish a trade in that which is proupon a savage coaft, where it was perly called the South-Sea ; and imposible to trade with any security C now, I believe, will never more for your merchants and factors, with. have any trade in any sea whatever. out having forts for their protection But left it should be objected, that against the natives. The friendship these were all exclufive companies, of the natives was to be purchased I shall make some observations upon by prefents to their little princes, our Turkey company. This comand yet that friendship, after you had pany was from the beginning depurchased it, could not for a day be D figned to be a free and open comdepended on, unless you had a fort pany : That is to say, every man for a fecurity against their perfidy. was to have leave to trade to Turkey, Such a trade, therefore, could not who could make himself free of the be opened without a much greater company by the payment of a small expence than the profits of the trade
fum, I think 5l. But the company could answer in a great number of were enabled to make by.laws, and years ; consequently, this expence E every man free of the company was must be defrayed by the publick, or to be subject to these by-laws. What a company with a joint stock and was the consequence? Some cunning exclusive privilege must be erected. fellows among the directors conAs the government had not at that trived a by-law, by which they extime millions yearly at its disposal, cluded every man from the Turkey as it has had since, it could not spare trade but themselves and their the expence, and therefore it was F friends * By this means they inabsolutely neceffary, for the opening grossed the trade to themselves, and of that trade, to erect a company lold all English goods in Turkey at with a joint stock and exclusive pri- such a high price, that the French vilege. Whilst that company was were enabled to rival us, and at last unrivalled, or but very little ri- run away with the greatest part of valled by foreigners, they carried on the trade. the trade with advantage ; but as
In this country, Sir, we should soon as they came to be rivalled by be more cautious of erecting trading the private traders of other nations, companies, than in cougtries where We saw that we muft either lose the their government is arbitrary. Mer.
chants, * See a debate on ebe Turkey trade, London Magazine for 1745, P. 521, 530.
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yet not only the authors of it escaped in this country, in order to Thew,
have no occasion for being at any of his country.
expence, but what with frugal ma. We may from hence see the rea
nagement may be reimbursed by two fon, Sir, why trading companies or three successful voyages ; and the proíper much better, and are of F fitting out a herring buls is so small more advantage to their country, in an expence, that any common merFrance than in England. Even in chant may by himself alone underHolland they have generally been take it. When I talk of frugal maconducted with much more publick nagement, I must observe, that it is spirit, and a greater regard to the by this alone, and by selling at a good of the commonwealth in gene- small profit, that the Dutch have ral, than ever they were in England. G hitherto prevented our interfering We may be convinced of this, by with them in the trade, and now we comparing the conduct of the Eart
are going to grasp at a share of the India company ind lolland, with that
trade, by carrying it on in the most of our East India and African com- expensive way that can be thought